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re: Godfather II question
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:37 pm to Methuselah
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:37 pm to Methuselah
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Tessio was pretty cool - He asked Tom to inform Michael that it wasn't personal, just business. And of course he took the long shot asking Tom if he could get him off "for old times' sake".
"Tessio was always smarter."
I never got that line. If Tessio were "smarter", he would've known the one attempting to broker the sitdown would've been perceived as the traitor. More ambitious than fat Clemenza, maybe, but definitely not "smarter" in any sense that I understand the word.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:03 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:
"Tessio was always smarter."
I never got that line. If Tessio were "smarter", he would've known the one attempting to broker the sitdown would've been perceived as the traitor. More ambitious than fat Clemenza, maybe, but definitely not "smarter" in any sense that I understand the word.
It's hard to say because we don't get shown a whole lot of Clemenza between the very early years and the later years. Same for Tessio really.
Either way, I don't think either one of them were on the level of Vitto or Michael. Both were competent Capos but not the very top level. Which is why Vitto ended up the boss even though Clemenza (and I'm pretty sure Tessio) had been in crime before him.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:07 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:
"Tessio was always smarter."
I never got that line. If Tessio were "smarter", he would've known the one attempting to broker the sitdown would've been perceived as the traitor. More ambitious than fat Clemenza, maybe, but definitely not "smarter" in any sense that I understand the word.
I think he meant it almost as an insult, like someone who was always working the angles or fancied himself a player/strategist while Clemenza was more comfortable with who he was.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:38 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
He means Tessio was trying to make a deal with Barzini to keep his area/rank/whatever when the Barzini folks (and the other families) tried to make a move on The Dons businesses.
He sets up Michael, he's a made guy with the next family in power.
Even Clemenza said if Vito died and Michael moved out, they'd (he and Tessio) would come under Barzini's thumb..."and I hate that god damn Barzini." Clemenza wanted to try and go out on his own, Tessio wanted the Barzini protection.
He sets up Michael, he's a made guy with the next family in power.
Even Clemenza said if Vito died and Michael moved out, they'd (he and Tessio) would come under Barzini's thumb..."and I hate that god damn Barzini." Clemenza wanted to try and go out on his own, Tessio wanted the Barzini protection.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:37 am to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:
"Tessio was always smarter."
I never got that line. If Tessio were "smarter", he would've known the one attempting to broker the sitdown would've been perceived as the traitor. More ambitious than fat Clemenza, maybe, but definitely not "smarter" in any sense that I understand the word.
The "smart play" was to try to join up with Barzini. The Corleone's gambit was very risky and had long odds of success. The smarter of teh two would realize this and betray the family and try to curry favor with Barzini.
None of the other heads of the families, nor Tessio guessed what Michael was about to do.
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