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re: Why are the Redskins getting so much heat?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:21 pm to DelU249
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:21 pm to DelU249
quote:No you're not. As much as you've talked about this issue, you really haven't provided any valuable material.
I'm just giving back what you give.
There is a moral reason to campaign for the name change. A simple gander at a current American dictionary will show you what I mean.
There is no moral reason to campaign to keep the name because to do so requires one to contradict himself. That is, either the name is offensive and wrong, or it isn't a big deal. Either way, no rational or moral thinker can conclude that the name itself is worth fighting for.
Those throwing all these tantrums complaining about those wanting the name to be changed are being dishonest and/or willfully ignorant.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:34 pm to ballscaster
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There is no moral reason to campaign to keep the name
I'm not even sure why you think that's a criteria that must be met. Snyder's is a financial one. Moreover, how you can say there isn't a moral reason without viewing morals as a specifically defined code with factual basis. People have different moral codes. Some people do think it is a big deal. I don't and I don't have a moral justification to "fight" not am I fighting; however if I wanted to I can do so without moral justification. Lastly, while I find the idea of opposing the name that is racist to be morally justifiable, I (and many others-a majority of others) don't think it's racist which would mean I don't find your reason to be morally just.
You're a new breed - a dictionary thumper. Praise be to oxford.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:36 pm to ballscaster
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Either way, no rational or moral thinker can conclude that the name itself is worth fighting for.
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Those throwing all these tantrums
you're using some very tantrumtastic words.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:37 pm to ballscaster
Here's the thing: the term Redskins is not inherently offensive. Yes, some people take offense to it. But it is a neutral physical description. Have we got to the point where describing someones physical appearance, or acknowledging physical appearance is negative and offensive?
Remove all the perceptions youve been told you should have. Is calling someone a description based on their skin (redskin) different than hair (brunette) or height (the Giants) or eye color (old blue eyes)? No its not. Redskin doesnt imply anything negative.
Remove all the perceptions youve been told you should have. Is calling someone a description based on their skin (redskin) different than hair (brunette) or height (the Giants) or eye color (old blue eyes)? No its not. Redskin doesnt imply anything negative.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:38 pm to ballscaster
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There is no moral reason to campaign to keep the name because to do so requires one to contradict himself. That is, either the name is offensive and wrong, or it isn't a big deal. Either way, no rational or moral thinker can conclude that the name itself is worth fighting for.
My name is neither offensive or a big deal, but id fight you if you forced me to change it. Its my name.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:26 pm to ballscaster
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you really haven't provided any valuable material.
You've given nothing but your high horse opinion. People have linked stories of native American high schools fighting to keep the name redskins as their mascot. You've shown where one politically motivated group has come out against it.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:31 pm to ballscaster
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That is, either the name is offensive and wrong, or it isn't a big deal
Doesn't mean people should do something just because some slap dick wants them to. Maybe I have a green roof and my neighbor doesn't like it and tells me to change it. In the grand scheme of things a roof color is no big deal but it's mine and I like green so frick him.
Snyder is an arrogant prick that believes in property rights and the freedoms that come with ownership like most people that believe in our capitalist economy and constitution do. It should take more than a vocal minority to force a property owner to change something that will devalue a brand that has been built over decades.
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