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re: Why are the Redskins getting so much heat?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:23 pm to DelU249
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:23 pm to DelU249
Moron, idiot, and imbecile all began as neutral, medical terms. Those fell out of favor in the medical community as their use in the culture at large deemed it inappropriate. The same thing happened to retarded. The same thing will happen to mentally challenged.
By your exact same logic, it is entirely appropriate for me to call a mentally handicapped person an idiot.
All of our words evolve and change over time. Lesbian used to just mean someone from Lesbos. It may seem silly in the short run to just keep replacing them as their cultural definitions and connotations change. But that's the way it's always been, going back to ancient times. You can look at the Greek word "barbarian" and how its definition changed over time within the Greek empire.
By your exact same logic, it is entirely appropriate for me to call a mentally handicapped person an idiot.
All of our words evolve and change over time. Lesbian used to just mean someone from Lesbos. It may seem silly in the short run to just keep replacing them as their cultural definitions and connotations change. But that's the way it's always been, going back to ancient times. You can look at the Greek word "barbarian" and how its definition changed over time within the Greek empire.
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:29 pm to genro
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Moron, idiot, and imbecile all began as neutral, medical terms. Those fell out of favor in the medical community as their use in the culture at large deemed it inappropriate. The same thing happened to retarded. The same thing will happen to mentally challenged.
By your exact same logic, it is entirely appropriate for me to call a mentally handicapped person an idiot.
All of our words evolve and change over time. Lesbian used to just mean someone from Lesbos. It may seem silly in the short run to just keep replacing them as their cultural definitions and connotations change. But that's the way it's always been, going back to ancient times. You can look at the Greek word "barbarian" and how its definition changed over time within the Greek empire.
Well if redskin has evolved overtime the only thing it evolved to would be the name of the team in Washington DC. It definitely is not more derogatory now than before. In fact, ive never heard anyone use the term outside of the football team.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:35 pm to genro
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Those fell out of favor in the medical community as their use in the culture at large deemed it inappropriate
yes, by a majority of the people, not by a majority of imbeciles.
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All of our words evolve and change over time
but what you fail to understand is that the word "redskins" is almost entirely used to refer to a football team and the majority of people don't find it to be "racist" "inappropriate" or any such thing
If the popular sentiment swished the other way, I wouldn't understand "why" but at least I would agree it's racist...why? because that is how most people perceive it AND intend it.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:38 pm to genro
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All of our words evolve and change over time
and again, you have not acknowledged the possibility that this is a two way street...and it is entirely possible given the general sentiment of those opposed that it originally was racist, that it has evolved in the opposite direction
it just is what it is...language is very much a "majority rules" arena...and the majority has ruled...not racist.
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