but it is indicative of another issue and quite frankly even that doesn't matter...though it does baffle the bajesus out of me...

political correctness, the motivations, the tactics employed to enact changes wanted, the use of language, and a very interesting way of censoring people. And it is somewhat personal for me because of personal things that what I think I'm communicating in a very clear manner is more often than the average person...not clearly received...despite lengthy explanation over even the most minute things

and here is an issue that the majority understands the intent, the message, and I do as well...yet there is a minority of people who do not, and I feel determined to have them explain exactly why that is...and yet, I have yet to hear even a decent explanation...then there is also a sense of vagueness...as we have covered...offensive and racist aren't the same things, though people don't generally think that specifically (I, and trust me it is quite an unfortunate affliction, do.)

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Posted by genro

Member since Nov 2011

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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:23 pm to DelU249

Moron, idiot, and imbecile all began as neutral, medical terms. Those fell out of favor in the medical community as their use in the culture at large deemed it inappropriate. The same thing happened to retarded. The same thing will happen to mentally challenged.

By your exact same logic, it is entirely appropriate for me to call a mentally handicapped person an idiot.

All of our words evolve and change over time. Lesbian used to just mean someone from Lesbos. It may seem silly in the short run to just keep replacing them as their cultural definitions and connotations change. But that's the way it's always been, going back to ancient times. You can look at the Greek word "barbarian" and how its definition changed over time within the Greek empire.

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Posted by ballscaster

Member since Jun 2013

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Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:58 pm to DelU249

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but it is indicative of another issue and quite frankly even that doesn't matter...though it does baffle the bajesus out of me...

political correctness, the motivations, the tactics employed to enact changes wanted, the use of language, and a very interesting way of censoring people. And it is somewhat personal for me because of personal things that what I think I'm communicating in a very clear manner is more often than the average person...not clearly received...despite lengthy explanation over even the most minute things

You people are so anxious to connect any issue to the scourge of political correctness that you'll throw a complete tantrum over the idea of changing a sports team nickname that the dictionary defines as racist, offensive, disparaging, insulting, and pejorative.

Let this one go. Sometimes the other side is right. This is one of those times. There is no moral reason anyone should fight to keep this name. Either you think the name is no big deal, in which case you'll have no problem letting it go, or you think the name is a really big deal, legitimizing the opinions of those offended by the name.

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