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re: Why are the Redskins getting so much heat?

Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:56 pm to
yes it's all about the words and what people read into them as meaning. According to what I have read, redskins is considered derogatory by Native Americans to a great degree. Good enough for me. White Guilt like that one.

I guess I never liked the Skins or the Cowboys anyway.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:09 pm to
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yes it's all about the words and what people read into them as meaning


no, it both what is communicated and what is received and sometimes the two aren't the same thing.

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According to what I have read, redskins is considered derogatory by Native Americans to a great degree.


and? I understand that dan Snyder and all owners before him didn't mean it to be and don't consider it to be derogatory...one side doesn't get preference...and in talking with native americans...which I do because a dear friend of mine is 100% NA, not an Elizabeth Warren wannabe, I wouldn't call him a redskin...why? because of how he receives it? If I want to name my business redskins, and the intent is clear, the meaning is clear and almost everyone likes it, but he has a problem, he can go frick himself. And he knows this...

we're talking about a team name...they are called the redskins...no one is calling the Navajo tribe "redskins" so I really don't give two shits about what is being received, because the message isn't solely intended for them. It's for everyone.

If dan Snyder was addressing a group of native americans and called them redskins in a derogatory manner...different story.

and though I can logically understand why the message isn't racist, I've yet to understand or hear a clear explanation of why a minority of people receive it as racist...

and if you come back with some shite that I'm racist or "an arse" we're done discussing this.
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