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re: One officer says, shut up and take it.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:55 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:55 pm to LSURussian
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Chris Rock was right
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:55 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Just ignore them, say very little and do what they say and go home and feel sorry for them and go on with your happy life.
bullshite.
In my case:
-Held on the side of I-10 for 1.75 hours while being accused of a crime there is no reason to be suspected of.
-Arrested for remaining after forbidden while filming the police. Turns out I wasn't breaking the law to begin with, but let's make him pay a bunch of money and do anger management classes by charging him with resisting arrest as well.
Innocent people have to fight false charges all of the time. The cops don't care, they are basically immune from any consequences of their mistakes. The tax payer will most likely be on the hook for it though.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:57 pm to asurob1
I didn't read that has harshly as you. Seems what any non drunk/drugged folks think and already know.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:58 pm to wheelr
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The cops don't care, they are basically immune from any consequences of their mistakes.
This is flat out false but I understand you are speaking from your personal bad experiences.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:43 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Comply with them, video tape it if you can. Make sure they know you are taping it. May irritate them, but at least you will have evidence if anything improper does happen. Don't bait them in any other way.
i believe this would fly in the face of what the cop recommends. As cops will tell you to turn the camera off.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:53 pm to Hawkeye95
An officer shouldn't have any problem with being video taped unless he is doing something that he shouldn't in which case shame on him.
However I have seen instances where someone misundertands in that although they can video tape they cannot necessarily come so close to the officer that it causes him to be concerned for his safety and interferres with him doing his job.
However I have seen instances where someone misundertands in that although they can video tape they cannot necessarily come so close to the officer that it causes him to be concerned for his safety and interferres with him doing his job.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:04 pm to Who Me
" I also understand the anger and frustration if people believe they have been stopped unjustly or without a reason. I am aware that corrupt and bully cops exist. When it comes to police misconduct, I side with the ACLU: Having worked as an internal affairs investigator, I know that some officers engage in unprofessional and arrogant behavior; sometimes they behave like criminals themselves. I also believe every cop should use a body camera to record interactions with the community at all times. Every police car should have a video recorder. (This will prevent a situation like Mike Brown’s shooting, about which conflicting and self-serving statements allow people to believe what they want.) And you don’t have to submit to an illegal stop or search. You can refuse consent to search your car or home if there’s no warrant (though a pat-down is still allowed if there is cause for suspicion). Always ask the officer whether you are under detention or are free to leave. Unless the officer has a legal basis to stop and search you, he or she must let you go. Finally, cops are legally prohibited from using excessive force: The moment a suspect submits and stops resisting, the officers must cease use of force."
- the words of the author (i.e., the cop), from the subject linked story
- the words of the author (i.e., the cop), from the subject linked story
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:21 pm to Choupique19
Your dad's advice was different than my dad's. My dad told me if anyone threatens or runs their mouth to me then whip their arse.
He said if they are bigger than me or there's more than one then go get a baseball bat and hide it in the bushes at school and wait for recess.
I got suspended a lot in grade school
He said if they are bigger than me or there's more than one then go get a baseball bat and hide it in the bushes at school and wait for recess.
I got suspended a lot in grade school
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:23 pm to Beauw
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Also, who in their right mind would want to be a cop nowadays..... they get crucified by the media constantly.
I would expect the quality of the officers to deteriorate in the near future.
Yep. Cops, at least at the state level, are better educated and better trained than ever before. Unfortunately, as they say, the good have to suffer with the bad. I think part of the problem is that many officers are military reservists and have been pulled from their jobs at the PD to go kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are sent back to their respective departments with more of a kill-or-be-killed attitude. Contrast that with WW2 when police officers were actually exempt from military service.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:28 pm to Who Me
A few years ago I was driving on I12 between Slidell and Covington when a State Trooper going to the opposite way jumped the median and got behind me and put on his lights. I wasn't speeding so I didn't know the reason. I pulled over and sat there waiting for him to approach my truck. A few minutes goes by and a St Tammany Parish deputy approaches with his lights on and pulls in front of me. On their PA system the Trooper tels me to get out the truck with my hands up, at the same time, the deputy approached my truck from the front.
I was about shitting myself at this time. The Trooper approached me and had me lean against the hood and frisked me. He removed my wallet from my back pants pocket and asked me to produce ID. While this was going on, the deputy was on the passenger side of the truck kind of lookinginto the truck. By this time another Trooper arrived. The Trooper asked where I was coming from. I told him then he asked if I had any weapons in the truck. I told him no, and he asked for my permission to search the truck.I told him no problem, I had nothing to hide. One of the Troopers and the deputy searched the inside of the truck, including the rear cargo area, which was empty (the truck was van).
I asked the Trooper what this was all about and he didn't answer me, instead going back to his car with my ID. A few minutes later he brought my ID back to me and told me I was free to go. I asked again why was I stopped. He told me that a few minutes before he pulked me over, an armed robbery had occured at a gas station and it was reported that a van like mine was used by the robber and he was seen getting on I12 going the same direction I was. He thanked me for my cooperation.
This was a very stressful situation for me, and I could see how things could have gone wrong for me if I would have been disrespectful or refused to cooperate with him. And I don't blame him for frisking me or the deputy approaching my van with his hand on his gun. If I was truly the robber, these guys were taking a risk approaching me and I didn't blame them for taking precautions to protect themselves.
I was about shitting myself at this time. The Trooper approached me and had me lean against the hood and frisked me. He removed my wallet from my back pants pocket and asked me to produce ID. While this was going on, the deputy was on the passenger side of the truck kind of lookinginto the truck. By this time another Trooper arrived. The Trooper asked where I was coming from. I told him then he asked if I had any weapons in the truck. I told him no, and he asked for my permission to search the truck.I told him no problem, I had nothing to hide. One of the Troopers and the deputy searched the inside of the truck, including the rear cargo area, which was empty (the truck was van).
I asked the Trooper what this was all about and he didn't answer me, instead going back to his car with my ID. A few minutes later he brought my ID back to me and told me I was free to go. I asked again why was I stopped. He told me that a few minutes before he pulked me over, an armed robbery had occured at a gas station and it was reported that a van like mine was used by the robber and he was seen getting on I12 going the same direction I was. He thanked me for my cooperation.
This was a very stressful situation for me, and I could see how things could have gone wrong for me if I would have been disrespectful or refused to cooperate with him. And I don't blame him for frisking me or the deputy approaching my van with his hand on his gun. If I was truly the robber, these guys were taking a risk approaching me and I didn't blame them for taking precautions to protect themselves.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:29 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Yep. Cops, at least at the state level, are better educated and better trained than ever before.
I found it interesting that the L.A. cop who is the subject of this thread has a PhD.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:33 pm to asurob1
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In case you think the police are here to protect you
They don't protect from crime, they react after a crime has been committed.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They don't protect from crime, they react after a crime has been committed.
Yes, that's often the case but there are plenty of cases of officers stopping a crime in progress and there is also proactive enforcement.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What the officer said is pretty much common sense in the majority of America..
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:38 pm to asurob1
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If you don't want to get hurt, don't challenge me
- IRS
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If you don't want to get hurt, don't challenge me
- Tolerant Democrats
Why does it matter when a police officer says out loud what has been going on for so long in this country?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:44 pm to WmWallace
It is just basic common sense, but you have to understand the mindset of the OP.
Asurob actually once said, "America treats black people like animals, so why are we surprised when they act like animals?"
He freely acknowledges he said that, btw.
Asurob actually once said, "America treats black people like animals, so why are we surprised when they act like animals?"
He freely acknowledges he said that, btw.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:50 pm to KCT
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You always respect people. But we are all adults. Cops are peers. They aren't mommy and daddy. They should be respected as a means of being polite just like you'd show respect to any stranger you meet.
All of this.
Cops should have no more or fewer rights than any other human being.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:51 pm to Who Me
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Yes, that's often the case but there are plenty of cases of officers stopping a crime in progress and there is also proactive enforcement.
I don't expect to be protected. I do expect some kind of investigation and hopefully some kind of resolution after the fact. The odds of them preventing a crime in progress, unless it's a long drawn out ordeal, is very small. Not enough for me to count on it happening.
Now, if my turn signal is broke, I'm sure that will be interrupted at some point.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't expect to be protected. I do expect some kind of investigation and hopefully some kind of resolution after the fact. The odds of them preventing a crime in progress, unless it's a long drawn out ordeal, is very small. Not enough for me to count on it happening.
I understand that's not what you expect and it is not likely yet every day in cities across the country officers actually do stop crimes in progress and officers do proactively seek out criminals. I know it may be hard to believe but I assure you that it happens.
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Now, if my turn signal is broke, I'm sure that will be interrupted at some point.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:22 pm to Who Me
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officers do proactively seek out criminals. I know it may be hard to believe but I assure you that it happens.
I'd say that's being reactive, if they're already criminals.
I do understand some crimes are prevented, some are stopped in progress. Overall, don't expect to be protected from crime though. I generally rely on knowledge and a little common sense for that.
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