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re: Evangelicals in Republican Party are feeling left out, see no standard-bearer

Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:59 am to
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:59 am to
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What am I supposed to do if I am not religious and I hate government more than you do?


The trend would suggest that you will be the next on the chopping block.



Here:








As you can see, huge change in the millennials. You would be in that 37%. Now lets look at the population:








Making since?
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 1:10 am
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:33 am to
Darkhorse, your stats are right on target.

We have allowed our greater institutions of learning to be hijacked by radical leftists.

They are brainwashing the most easy to brain wash, the young.


Go to any college and ask 20 questions about world events and those idiots will score about 20 on a 100 scale.


Now the High Schools are being invaded.

It takes the wisdom of learned experience to overcome the ignorance of youth.

My friend, this country might very well repent, but we are going to fall first.

And then these young know it alls will understand,there is a price to be paid for the blessings of God.

This country has murdered 55 million babies.

Our penance is around the corner.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:36 am to
Would vote for Ben Carson.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:21 am to
It is simply facts. It's numbers. The republicans still have a shot at getting a president in the wh... but they will have to get the baby boomers and the part of genx to the polls.

Look at McCain. These people stayed home. Why? Same reason they stayed home with Romney. In part they are pissed at Bush for his big government moves. Then the party goes left of him.... twice.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Mitt Romney, for instance, was not looking to legislate morality in the slightest. He ran on foreign policy and economic issues and still lost the general election because "white Guilt" led a lot of Caucasians to vote for the "First Black President" in order to prove their colorblindness to themselves.


Fixed.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Evangelicals in Republican Party are feeling left out, see no standard-bearer


They are the useful idiots that allow themselves to be taken advantage of, so they should get used to a lot of talk and fear mongering. They are to the republican party what black voters are to the democratic party.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34885 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:03 pm to
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Uhm, no. I am a small government conservative




I wasn't talking to you or about you in particular.

To my point, there is nothing small government about wanting to use the federal government to dictate who can get married (just using this as an example). You can want a candidate who stands for the same principles you do, but once they try and use their power to make sure everyone complies with your morality on such issues, you are no longer supporting a small government. You are granting them more power, which only escalates the issue.

I want Rand Paul to win the nomination for this very reason. He understands this principle. You can still promote these ideals without having to use your power to make sure others follow them.

This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34885 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:05 pm to
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But hey... let get rid of those pesky Christians because they believe in "fairy tales".


When did I suggest this? I'm a Christian too. I just understand that the day the Republican party stops pandering to a group that wants to legislate morality, the better off they will be. That doesn't mean they move more to the left, it means they back to where they should be.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34885 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:06 pm to
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What legislation did he propose?


Didn't he propose something about banning porn? It's been a while.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:18 pm to
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To my point, there is nothing small government about wanting to use the federal government to dictate who can get married (just using this as an example). You can want a candidate who stands for the same principles you do, but once they try and use their power to make sure everyone complies with your morality on such issues, you are no longer supporting a small government. You are granting them more power, which only escalates the issue.


No, I want a candidate to enforce laws that already exist. Laws depict the morality of society. If we want to repeal those laws then so be it. But they are already law.

And the states should decide the marriage issue.

So, no, again.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:19 pm to
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Would vote for Ben Carson.


+1
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:21 pm to
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I am so pleased at the notion of having a potential Republican candidate whose platform is not predicated on pandering to evangelicals. They need to get over themselves and recognize that their religious ideals aren't the supreme tenets of the conservative movement.


When was it? Who was the presidential candidate whose platform was predicated on pandering to Evangelicals? Reagan? Bush? Maybe. You can't say Dole, McCain or Romney were anything approaching evangelical panderers.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:45 pm to
A more accurate addendum to the OP is that he wants to court irreligious millennials and drive older evangelicals from the Republican tent. He believes that will encourage independents to trend conservative (don't agree with his premise - but I will stipulate to it for sake of argument). I can live with that. Just be forthright in what you are trying to achieve. Be the (somewhat) smaller government, ostensibly fiscally conservative, quasi-Libertarian, lite version of the Democratic Party. Amirite?
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