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re: Charges against Perry should wait until he is out of office - agree/disagree?

Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:48 am to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:48 am to
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y. Based on the facts that Perry threatened to withhold money from an organization he believes to be run by a criminal, I'm interested to see what the rule of law is.


The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty. Doesn't matter if they are a heinous DWI convict - no such exception is provided.

If PErry gets off it will be because a judge rules the law unconstitutionally vague (it is vague). HE has clearly violated the letter of that law in broad daylight - but is the law a proper law?
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:51 am to
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coerce


=/= defund via veto
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:51 am to
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The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty.
Is she still the DA? If she is still the DA how is Perry guilty of coercion?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:58 am to
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The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty. Doesn't matter if they are a heinous DWI convict - no such exception is provided.

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David AxelrodVerified account ?@davidaxelrod

Unless he was demonstrably trying to scrap the ethics unit for other than his stated reason, Perry indictment seems pretty sketchy.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:13 am to
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The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty.

I read the statute yesterday, and although I'm not a fan of Rick Perry's I think this indictment is pure baloney that does not comport with the intent or spirit of that law.

The obvious purpose of that law is to keep officials from being coerced into performing something foreign to the public interest, or to keep officials from being coerced into neglecting something that would be in the public interest.

Coercing a person to perform or refrain from a particular duty is not the same as coercing her to step down... after which there is NO particular action to perform or neglect. The latter type of coercion is not meant to provoke a particular discharge or mischarge of a public duty, and is not the type of coercion addressed in the statute.

Perry seems to be well within his gubernatorial rights to withhold funding by veto power from an agency he thinks suffers from poor leadership.

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19318 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:18 am to
The Texas Constitution gives the Governor the right to veto any portion of an appropriation bill, and it doesn't limit the reasons therefor:

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If any bill presented to the Governor contains several items of appropriation he may object to one or more of such items, and approve the other portion of the bill. In such case he shall append to the bill, at the time of signing it, a statement of the items to which he objects, and no item so objected to shall take effect.
(Texas Constitution, Article 4, Section 14)
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:05 pm to
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The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty. Doesn't matter if they are a heinous DWI convict - no such exception is provided. If PErry gets off it will be because a judge rules the law unconstitutionally vague (it is vague). HE has clearly violated the letter of that law in broad daylight - but is the law a proper law?


So you're all about the law now? You unfailingly support a president that picks and chooses which laws he will execute based on his personal feelings about them. As they say, when the law's on your side, argue the law. When it's not, pound the message boards.

As for Perry, if he broke a law, he should be punished accordingly, as soon as he can move through the bowels of the justice system. It's not that hard.
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