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re: Holder orders second autopsy on Brown

Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9616 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

I thought it was interesting in the robbery video he is leaving then he turns on the owner and backs the owner down. Did he try the same thing with the officer?


That's what I'm thinking. Especially if he refused to get out of the street as supposedly the cop told him to do.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:40 pm to
Brown either just graduated from high school or obtained a GED. It would be interesting to hear from his former teachers or other authority figures regarding his behavior and whether he has a history of an oppositional-defiant nature. The type of behavior he displayed toward the store owner doesn't typically start happening spontaneously at the age of 18.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Hmerly
Member since May 2008
1338 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:26 pm to
This would actually be the third autopsy. Brown family attorney said the family had also gotten an autopsy done on body. Guess two autopsies that don't corroborate their story means they need a third one. Sigh, this country is in so much trouble....
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

behavior he displayed toward the store owner doesn't typically start happening spontaneously at the age of 18.


That's why I'm thinking drugs. No way the community would rise up for someone who acted like that all the time.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105408 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I think some people here have picked a side and are rooting.



Rooting? This was a tragic event and I am looking for the truth. Who the hell would root as if this is a sporting event? As for myself I made a comment based on a video I saw and that was it. Did my observation favor the officer? Yes, had I seen blood covering the back of his shirt I would have made an observation that wasn't so favorable to the cop.

The thing that bothers me is that I don't trust the DOJ being able to give a neutral look at anything. Especially since Holder is in charge, he is hardly an objective leader.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:39 pm to
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The thing that bothers me is that I don't trust the DOJ being able to give a neutral look at anything. Especially since Holder is in charge, he is hardly an objective leader.
This.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:47 pm to
One thing the video does accomplish is make it a lot more believable that Brown acted aggressively towards the Wilson, and that he was acting in self-defense. I think the police department was predictably circling the wagons to save Wilson, when they made the decision to release the video.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17710 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:51 pm to
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It would be interesting to hear from his former teachers


CNN (yes I was watching the race baiting/pandering channel) had an ex teacher this afternoon. He said he taught him at an "alternative school". Not knowing Mizzou I have no idea if it's similar to LA (dropouts/too old/trouble kids). Of course he said he was a great kid etc... Maybe he was at that school, but CNN wouldn't interview anyone that portrayed him negatively.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:52 pm to
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I think the police department was predictably circling the wagons to save Wilson, when they made the decision to release the video.

For some reason, this doesn't bother me. I mean, they are besieged as a unit. What other ammo do they have?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

CNN (yes I was watching the race baiting/pandering channel) had an ex teacher this afternoon. He said he taught him at an "alternative school". Not knowing Mizzou I have no idea if it's similar to LA (dropouts/too old/trouble kids). Of course he said he was a great kid etc... Maybe he was at that school, but CNN wouldn't interview anyone that portrayed him negatively.

I'm sure FOX News will send their folks to Ferguson to fill in the blanks.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31636 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:55 pm to
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This was a tragic event and I am looking for the truth. Who the hell would root as if this is a sporting event?


Some people are tribalistic like that as whites. Personally, I am honestly starting to feel aggrieved as a white person. I don't like that so many people now believe there is no way I can be honest and objective about a situation like this. I hear that sort of thing all the time these days.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:56 pm to
After seeing the community attack the shop where brown committed the robbery, no way I would risk my life as a member of the community by saying something negative against him. This is like dealing with the mafia.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57956 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Of course he said he was a great kid etc.



Don't you know that all people are great, honest, loyal, loving, kind, compassionate, smart, generous, etc. It's always the other guy that is the opposite. It's really amazing that we have any killers, thieves,
liars, with all the exemplary folks out there!
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

That's why I'm thinking drugs. No way the community would rise up for someone who acted like that all the time.

Maybe, but it's a tough call with the limited information. That's why I think it would be interesting to hear from some authority figures who have spent significant time with MB in the past. If the oppositional-defiant behavior is a recent trait with him, it could stem from drug use, peer pressure, home situation, or a number of other things as well. It's hard to say but I'm guessing there's some extraneous factors at play that might perhaps come out if it ends up in court, which most likely will happen.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

I'm sure FOX News will send their folks to Ferguson to fill in the blanks.


They didn't do that for Zimmerman so doubt they do it here. Internet sleuths and the defense are the only ones seeking the truth.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Some people are tribalistic like that as whites. Personally, I am honestly starting to feel aggrieved as a white person. I don't like that so many people now believe there is no way I can be honest and objective about a situation like this. I hear that sort of thing all the time these days.

I think we all have tribalistic tendencies, but some of us make no effort to suppress these tendencies and some of us do. Many White folks are troubled by the reaction of some Black folks when the OJ was found not guilty, but Black folks of age have seen the flip side of tribalism like when Jackson, MS held a parade to honor Byron De La Beckwith after an all-White jury let him walk and the spontaneous celebrations that erupted among White Southerners when MLK was assassinated. The world would be a lot more peaceful if everybody tried to suppress their tribal tendencies rather then revel in them.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17710 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

I'm sure FOX News


Don't watch Faux News, couldn't care less what they say.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Don't you know that all people are great, honest, loyal, loving, kind, compassionate, smart, generous, etc. It's always the other guy that is the opposite. It's really amazing that we have any killers, thieves, liars, with all the exemplary folks out there!

Have you ever seen any mother, White, Black, Yellow, Brown or Red, get on TV and trash their child?
Posted by tigerfan182
Franklin, Tn
Member since Sep 2009
2779 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:12 pm to
Holder is totally worthless
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:15 pm to
His Momma or a teacher from an alternative school signing his praises?
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