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re: The Oxford Declaration on Freedom of Thought and Expression

Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:48 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:48 am to
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As for eternal existence, it's still an attitude we can ascribe to most Christians.
I think you're right. That's why I cited this in my OP:

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Freedom of belief is absolute but the freedom to act on a belief is not.
One recent issue I had a bit of trouble with was the one that involved a bakery refusing to sell a cake to a certain client on account of the client's open sexual preference as it stood against the baker's personal beliefs. I seem to remember that the baker lost the case; not sure. Many here thought that this was a first amendment violation. Of course it wasn't since the state limited not the baker's right to free religion or belief, but the baker's right to free commerce. The belief wasn't challenged; the entrepreneurial action based on that belief is what was challenged and subsequently limited. I think many on the board conveniently failed to see the obvious difference between the two.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4353 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
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One recent issue I had a bit of trouble with was the one that involved a bakery refusing to sell a cake to a certain client on account of the client's open sexual preference as it stood against the baker's personal beliefs. I seem to remember that the baker lost the case; not sure.
You've misrepresented the facts of that case and the boards reaction to it.

The bakery never refused to sell anything to a client on account of the client's open sexual preference. The bakery simply refused to offer a certain product on the grounds that doing so would be against their personal religious beliefs. I think many on the board conveniently failed to see the obvious difference between the two.
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