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re: Tulane's Giving Itself A Huge DISADVANTAGE In Yulman Stadium?

Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:53 am to
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:53 am to
I understand what you are saying and I agree with you to an extent.

With that said I think there is a place for the mid major to be in the same division as the power conferences.

There is little difference between the Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Miss. State, Wake Forest, Indiana football programs and schools like UCONN, Central Florida, Cincinnati, SMU and Tulane.

They won't be able to knock off the top 20 programs on a yearly basis but occasionally those teams will have a great year and be able to compete with those teams. Teams like 2008 Utah, 2007 Boise State, 1998 Tulane, 2004 Louisville, 1999 Marshall, 2003 Miami (OH).

There is a place for these schools and as long as they are able to adapt to the changing college football landscape, which Tulane is currently doing, they can co-exist with and supplement the power conferences.
Posted by Nawlinsboyinbossier
Bossier City
Member since Feb 2014
663 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:00 am to
Even with getting the leftover talent in this state, Tulane should be a 7 win team every year. Playing in the dome gives them a recruiting advantage over a Southern Miss, ULL or McNeese. I also believe that they should beg , borrow or steal to play LSU every year. Playing the Tigers guarantees at least a top 15 opponent and big game atmosphere every year. Couple this with playing in an NFL stadium that a Bama or Ole Miss would visit, both fan bases love NO, and you may sway some athletes in their direction.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36136 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:21 am to
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With that said I think there is a place for the mid major to be in the same division as the power conferences.



To me whether they are in a lower division or if they are in the same division but come to terms with the differences in their limitations probably doesn't matter very much. The new playoff system is unlikely to let in a midmajor candidate because there are going to be five major conference champs and 1-2 deserving at larges who will get more favorable consideration IMO.

There have been some fun and even strong midmajors who deserved credit in recent years like the Utah, TCU, and Boise programs in the last decade. If there had been a four team playoff there were probably two years where my sense of fairness would have led me to advocate for one of them to be included rather than a second representative from a power conference or a flawed conference champ... but I personally doubt that would have happened and with the exception of a very strong Utah team I think most of the rest of them would have been disposed of immediately anyway (sorry Boise).

Anyway, you should expect push-back when it comes to some of those BCS schools you mention. Schools like Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and MSU are now flush with cash and investing more heavily on top of recruiting better than any of the midmajors for a very long time. They have solid coaches in place and have more talented rosters than people outside of the SEC are likely to realize. Mississippi State is probably regarded as a bad team by teams outside of the SEC but when they play well regarded teams from other conference they have fared very well under DM. Anyway, the teams at the bottom of a conference in a given year aren't the point because they aren't in consideration for a playoff, conference championship, and certainly not a national championship.

IMO you are stuck on the outliers who are midmajors as being the point. At least when it comes to discussing a Tulane type program discussing the few outliers really isn't the point. I'm more interested in what is good for a program like Tulane (and especially Tulane since I have personal connections to the school). What is good for a Tulane is to stop hemorrhaging money on football and slash football expenses to match what should reasonably be expected to be revenue generated. That most likely means you have to drop down to a lower division where a 20K stadium makes sense.
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