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re: FOUND: Hamas War Manual (glorifies use of human shields)

Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:21 am to
How anyone can support a regime that PURPOSELY puts its civilians in harm's way is beyond me.

Waging a war is one thing, but your cause is worthless if you have to denigrate by intentionally putting innocents up to shield you from retaliation.

That's not honorable nor noble, it's being a pussy.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:43 am to
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How anyone can support a regime that PURPOSELY puts its civilians in harm's way is beyond me.


abhorrent tactics for sure, but the Gazans continue to support Hamas as they are the only people standing up for them and fighting for their freedom - regardless of the tactics used.

It doesnt really matter who the group is. Destroy Hamas today and tomorrow it will be someone else. Gazans will fight and this cycle will continue until they are free.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 11:15 am to
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How anyone can support a regime that PURPOSELY puts its civilians in harm's way is beyond me.


One the late news shows (of the non alphabet soup variety) I was watching last night had a guy talking about the reason Hamas was formed in the first place. Apparently they formed their political party to 1. be taken seriously and not to be labeled as a terrorist organization and 2. for respectability b/c Israel continues to decimate them and they want other Arabs to see the "atrocities" that Israel is committing.
Posted by Big12fan
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 3:23 pm to
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How anyone can support a regime that PURPOSELY puts its civilians in harm's way is beyond me.

Waging a war is one thing, but your cause is worthless if you have to denigrate by intentionally putting innocents up to shield you from retaliation.


One must consider politics weapons of war as well as those which explode. Manipulating your own citizens and ultimately sacrificing them for a cause is not new. It is a despicable act however.

Zionists during WWII purposely allowed Hitler to murder 10's of thousands of Jews because their cause (creating Israel in Palestine) was greater than their desire to save as many Jews as possible.

Examples:
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On December 17, 1942 both houses of the British Parliament declared its readiness to find temporary refuge for endangered persons. The British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. This motion received within two weeks a total of 277 Parliamentary signatures. On Jan. 27, when the next steps were being pursued by over 100 M.P.'s and Lords, a spokesman for the Zionists announced that the Jews would oppose the motion because Palestine was omitted. [Source]

On Feb. 16, 1943 Roumania offered 70,000 Jewish refugees of the Trans-Dniestria to leave at the cost of $50 each. This was publicized in the New York papers. Yitzhak Greenbaum, Chairman of the Rescue Committee of the Jewish Agency, addressing the Zionist Executive Council in Tel Aviv Feb. 18 1943 said, "when they asked me, "couldn't you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said NO! and I say again, NO!...one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance." On Feb. 24, 1943 Stephen Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists issued a public refusal to this offer and declared no collection of funds would seem justified. In 1944, the Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People called upon the American government to establish a War Refugee Board. Stephen Wise testifying before a special committee of Congress objected to this proposal.

During the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weizman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weizman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".


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