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re: 17 year old girl raped at Keith Urban concert
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:11 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:11 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Truck yeah
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:12 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Do we know this?
Well he was drunk and therefore couldn't consent to her either?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:13 am to Winkface
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Do we know this?
we don't know if either one was drunk for sure. just that they were seen drinking by witnessess apparently
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:14 am to HeadyBrosevelt
You'd be surprised how crazy shite gets up there for concerts.
Was there last month for a show and the sloots were out and about like crazy. Bros wearing their cutoffs and 1992 Dream Team Jerseys (
) with high school chicks and their tits hanging out
I saw at least 15-20 underage bros and broetts get arrested
Was there last month for a show and the sloots were out and about like crazy. Bros wearing their cutoffs and 1992 Dream Team Jerseys (
) with high school chicks and their tits hanging out I saw at least 15-20 underage bros and broetts get arrested
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think he means that after she realized she was being videotaped, she claims that everything else that happened prior to that point wasn't done with her consent
yeah.
I know on the OT you're supposed to have one hard-lined opinion and stick with it, but this girl's story is a little hard to believe. Hopefully there were enough eye witnesses prior to video to get it sorted out one way or another.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:14 am to jimithing11
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bros and broetts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:14 am to Winkface
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Do we know this?
quote:
Murphy and the victim met for the first time during the Xfinity Center Amphitheater show, where both had been drinking alcohol.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
That's true. I was just pointing out that you can stop consenting in flagrante delicto.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Just because someone is drunk, doesn't mean they can't consent.
Well he was drunk and therefore couldn't consent to her either?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:15 am to Croacka
They were drinking????
But...but.... they're underage. How does that even happen??
But...but.... they're underage. How does that even happen??
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
So that means they are drunk?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:15 am to TheDrunkenTigah
exactly.. the story seems a bit far fetched to me. sounds like the guy and girl were both drunk making out in a crowd and she got spooked once she saw people filming her.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:15 am to WDE24
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Just because someone is drunk, doesn't mean they can't consent.
According to whom?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:16 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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yeah.
i'm telling y'all, this is a big, developing societal meme. it's one of those things society is going to have to sort out, and we don't really have a societal policy yet. just like tweens sexting. technology is advancing past our concepts of morality (and clashing with a system of criminal codes that cannot keep up)
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:16 am to LNCHBOX
quote:What do you mean according to whom?
According to whom?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:16 am to Winkface
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So that means they are drunk?
Can't consent with alcohol seems to be the usual defence for drunk girls, so drunk enough might be the better term.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:17 am to WDE24
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What do you mean according to whom?
Is there legal precedent to back that up?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:17 am to prince of fools
if she is using the "i was drunk so I couldn't consent" defense and she's 17, shouldn't she be charged at the very least with MIP?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:18 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Someone who is drunk may be incapacitated and unable to consent, but just being drunk doesn't make someone incapacitated and unable to consent.
Is there legal precedent to back that up?
More simply, drunk doesn't always equal incapacitated.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
Our society is shite-awful at sorting things out. We'll just make a reality show out of it and then some Lifetime movies, but in a few years it'll be the plot of a quirky romantic comedy movie with Cameron Diaz.
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