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re: 17 year old girl raped at Keith Urban concert
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:19 am to Death Before Disco
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:19 am to Death Before Disco
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Our society is shite-awful at sorting things out.
that is not true. it just takes time
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:20 am to WDE24
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Someone who is drunk may be incapacitated and unable to consent, but just being drunk doesn't make someone incapacitated and unable to consent.
Does that hold up in court? I don't disagree with it, but I see it thrown out a lot.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
in reality, it's irrelevant. if a person is pushing for the charge, he/she is going to testify that he/she was incapacitated regardless of whether it is true or not. otherwise, if the only basis for the rape is the party's mental state (as in, there was no clear "no" via communication or physical movement), then the case goes *poof*
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
doesn't sound like she was there against her will.. two drunk kids, 18 and 17 making out in a crowd of people... out come the camera phones and the girl freaks out...
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:26 am to monsterballads
How do you know all of this?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:27 am to monsterballads
Can you imagine this guy's thinking?
"Dude, I am the luckiest bro on the face of the Earth. This chick is soooo hot and sooooo horny. Uh-oh, here comes the cock-block.
Did she just ask this chick if I was raping her, and this chick said 'YES'?!
Time to get the frick out of here."
From luckiest dude on earth to locked up for rape.
"Dude, I am the luckiest bro on the face of the Earth. This chick is soooo hot and sooooo horny. Uh-oh, here comes the cock-block.
Did she just ask this chick if I was raping her, and this chick said 'YES'?!
Time to get the frick out of here."
From luckiest dude on earth to locked up for rape.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:28 am to LNCHBOX
quote:In criminal cases the prosecutor has to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. If the basis of the prosecution is incapacitation of the victim, the prosecution has to prove that element beyond a reasonable doubt. It just depends on the facts of each case and the jurisdiction on whether the prosecution can do that, but cases where the victim is voluntarily intoxicated are typically very difficult to prosecute according to what I have been told.
Does that hold up in court? I don't disagree with it, but I see it thrown out a lot.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:31 am to LesMiles BFF
Sounds like dudes need to stop sleeping with chicks within 5 minutes of meeting them.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:31 am to WDE24
Too incapacitated to tell him no but good enough to answer a bystanders question.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:31 am to Winkface
And there you have it. Knew you would come in with some bullshite
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:31 am to Winkface
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Sounds like dudes need to stop sleeping with chicks within 5 minutes of meeting them.
that's on the same level as telling a girl who got legit raped that she shouldn't have dressed so slutty
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
yep. I mean we all pretty much agreed the last girl was a slut.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:33 am to Winkface
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I mean we all pretty much agreed the last girl was a slut.
huh? the only consensus was that the guy involved was crazy and a potential legit psycho
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:33 am to Winkface
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Sounds like dudes need to stop sleeping with chicks within 5 minutes of meeting them.
If rape can only be claimed by one gender, then yeah. It's probably better to not frick a random.
We both know that's not gonna happen though.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
huh? She was trolling for dick on Tinder, remember?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:34 am to HeadyBrosevelt
Sounds like the girl should have taken a Hall of Fame basketball coach's advice on this one...
--Bobby Knight
And Stephen A. Smith just called and said that the girl was asking for it.
quote:
"I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it"
--Bobby Knight
And Stephen A. Smith just called and said that the girl was asking for it.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:34 am to LesMiles BFF
quote:I think there's a lot of reasons for this.
It's probably better to not frick a random.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:35 am to Winkface
quote:
She was trolling for dick on Tinder, remember?
go find me how many people posted that
*Except the rocket31 trolling
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:35 am to Winkface
I like these threads because you can always identify who the rapey posters would be.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:35 am to Winkface
I'll admit one thing. This case is probably less likely rape than the Tinder one.
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