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Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:24 pm to Slingscode
quote:I think he was referring to a local gas tax and not a national tax.
Since I live in Houston, that would be a negative Ghost Rider.
Tollway makes the most sense. Anyone who travels I-10 through LA, especially truckers, would be in favor of a loop around Baton Rouge even if it was toll road.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:25 pm to magildachunks
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My sister works for DOTD as an engineer. She siad yesterday why we don't have funds and why Texas does to do all these loops and maintenances: tolls.
My work pays for mine. I love toll roads
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:26 pm to The Mad Fratter
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I just can't believe Monroe has a loop but BR doesn't
Where?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:26 pm to magildachunks
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It's that simple. But the populace and the politicians don't want to do it.
Because since Huey Long, the population of this state has been told everything should be free (and/or paid for my someone else).
Perfect example - Sunshine Bridge. Use to be a toll bridge - 1st to pay for it, then to maintain it. Local pol thought he'd curry favor with his constituents by PERMANENTLY removing the tolls from the bridge. It's been neglected for years and is only just now getting refurbished.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:27 pm to udtiger
I up voted that one udtiger. My pop has been saying the same thing for years.
The toll should have never been removed.
And WTF is the point of that bridge built across the river in St. Francisville?
The toll should have never been removed.
And WTF is the point of that bridge built across the river in St. Francisville?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:27 pm to Lookin4Par
ABSOLUTELY
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:31 pm to recruitnik
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So international businessmen imposing a permanent tax on US citizens good, state governments doing the same bad.
Got it.
Tolls only affect the ppl that actually drive on the road.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:32 pm to The Mad Fratter
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I just can't believe Monroe has a loop but BR doesn't
da faq?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:40 pm to WeeWee
There are two major cities in LA that do not have a "loop". BR and Lafayette. Their legislative personnel, when the Federal Government had money, could not get their stuff together in the 1970s, unlike Lake Charles. When they decided what they wanted, the Federal Government told both cities, "Too late." That is why there is no loop around Lafayette or Baton Rouge now. 
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:42 pm to LT Tiger
Umm...New Orleans doesn't have a loop either unless you count 610
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:44 pm to kingbob
610 is considered a loop for highway purposes.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:44 pm to LT Tiger
Don't see a need for one around Lafayette. Never had to get off 75 going through there on 10.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:46 pm to High C
If you live in Lafayette, you would disagree about the need for a loop.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:46 pm to kingbob
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Umm...New Orleans doesn't have a loop either unless you count 610
While not a technical loop, it serves the purpose of one. Imagine how shitty traffic would be if 610 didn't exist. You'd have an average of almost 100k extra vehicles per day using I10 through the city.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:50 pm to LNCHBOX
That and not having US 90 on the other side of the river. New Orleans would be worse by far.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:53 pm to High C
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Don't see a need for one around Lafayette. Never had to get off 75 going through there on 10.
This, mostly because the interstate doesn't really go through or near downtown. What Lafayette needs is Highway 90 upgraded to be an interstate. with possibly a south western bypass for those people travelling between Houston and Broussard and points further southeast.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:57 pm to stevengtiger
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It is my understanding that in Texas, there are international companies (several Japanese) that build some of the major highways and then collect the tolls over the life of the road. Not sure if this LA has considered this or not.
This is commonly referred to as Public-Private Partnerships. Very effective way of getting high dollor projects built. Yesy, there are large investor groups that do this and the end product is usually much better quality as the private groups put higher demands on the contractor's work. The only problem is that the groups must be able to believe that their investment will return a profit.
My opinion is that all they hear out of La is the whiners and backwards dumbasses crying "I ain't payin' no toll!"
There will be no bridge or bypass or loop without some kind of funding beyond traditional Fed/State highway funds. The project, including roadway and bridge is easily over a billion dollars. Those kind of dollars are simply not available thru public funding sources.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 2:59 pm to TheIndulger
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.10 cents extra
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I would pay 1/1000 of a dollar more,yes
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