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re: Would you have supported a smaller healthcare reform act, specifically one that

Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:01 pm to
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Because it's not really insurance. It's a national safety net program akin to social security.



What the F*CK???

Since f*cking WHEN?


And, why then is your Messiah going around LYING about it?

If you can work, why should anyone else provide YOU with a f*cking "safety net" just because you wanted to retire early and not pay your own f*cking way?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:04 pm to
So newbomby and turkey of you.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:04 pm to
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That was true before Congress decided on a national healthcare act, but wouldn't be true now. Since the goal now is universal coverage everyone must participate in order for the model to work.


And you actually believe this will work?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:06 pm to
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And you actually believe this will work?

Inasmuch as it's ALREADY working, sure.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:07 pm to
By your logoc my family should be able to take out a 500k life insurance policy after I die and get paid from it.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:08 pm to
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Inasmuch as it's ALREADY working, sure.


proof that its working?

I have my own plan to go around the system.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:09 pm to
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By your logoc my family should be able to take out a 500k life insurance policy after I die and get paid from it.

That's not my logic, just your straw man.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:10 pm to
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I have my own plan to go around the system.

if it's illegal I wouldn't be bragging about it here.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:20 pm to
Not unless you consider half of your fellow democrats to be illegal. Just going to pay everything off and work for cash and claim little to no income. Then hop on the democrat gravy train. Free healthcare, welfare, food stamps etc etc.

If you can't beat them join them.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:23 pm to
Please show me the strawman.

You say strawman to try to discredit the validity without stating cause. Weakness and deflection at it's finest.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:23 pm to
Dude, you really shouldn't be bragging about illegal activity here.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:27 pm to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?
Yes. That's how life insurance works too.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:27 pm to
I would have supported a smaller law that removed mandates from policies.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:30 pm to
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quote: So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?

Yes.

Well, you see, right there is an irreconcilable difference between a compassionate person and a non-compassionate one. At least you're honest about your lack of compassion.

Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:30 pm to
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Dude, you really shouldn't be bragging about illegal activity here.


Yeah and your not doing the exact same thing. Honestly that will be my last resort, but I expect this healthcare plan to collapse the USA economy well before then. Its plain and simple we are already at the edge of the cliff, this thing will push us over it. Right now less that 50% of the population supports the country. With Obama bringing in the influx of new illegal voters who will be added to the democrat pay rolls it won't be long.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:36 pm to
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I would have supported a smaller law that removed mandates from policies.

I supported a smaller law that had no policies at all.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:39 pm to
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Since the goal now is universal coverage everyone must participate in order for the model to work.



That's the goal now? You're admitting it?
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:43 pm to
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quote: So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?

Yes.


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Well, you see, right there is an irreconcilable difference between a compassionate person and a non-compassionate one. At least you're honest about your lack of compassion.

Rex, I am very compassionate. If I had my way no one would die or get sick. Everyone would also be OT billionaires, but that is not reality. If you chose not to get health insurance and you get sick it's not the insurance companies obligation to insure them. It's been said many times on this board that is not insurance.

With all that said it should be illegal for an insurance company to drop you after you have been diagnosed.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:48 pm to
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Rex, I am very compassionate.

I believe it.
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If you chose not to get health insurance and you get sick it's not the insurance companies obligation to insure them.

Of course not. That's why if we were going to be truly compassionate we had to CHANGE such a system. We chose a system where insurance companies would not be overall hurt by their participation.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:00 pm to



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If you chose not to get health insurance and you get sick it's not the insurance companies obligation to insure them.


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Of course not.


That's exactly what PACA does. I agree there needed to be reform. What we got was not reform.
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