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re: How do TV shows get us rooting for bad people?

Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:20 pm to
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Ray Donovan


Only because his father Mickey might be the sleaziest piece of shite on tv right now.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7386 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:45 am to
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 Robert would kill him, his lover, all of his children, and probably also kill his brother and declare war on his father. Thousands would die if Bran reported the information he did, while only one would if it looked like he died from an accident. You would have done the exact same thing in his scenario.


I have a hard time buying that Jamie was "thinking about the realm". Also, he wasn't exactly broken up about the fact that he just murdered/maimed an innocent kid.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:48 am to
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I have a hard time buying that Jamie was "thinking about the realm".



Why? He would instinctly know that Robert would kill them all and Tywin would retaliate with war. Sure his family came first, but Jaime knew if Robert found out about the affair that war was a certainty.

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Also, he wasn't exactly broken up about the fact that he just murdered/maimed an innocent kid.


The kid in his mind was nosey and it was either him or the kid. Jaime doesn't ever really regret his actions, aside from not protecting Rhaegar's children from his father and one other thing that has not been mentioned yet.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112215 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:49 am to
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There's the whole attempting to kill a 12 year old boy thing, but other than that he's a super guy.


I wish he did kill Bran....he could've save us 4 seasons of boring arse scenes about Bran
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:50 am to
Bran does suck pretty hard.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112215 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:01 am to
The only good bran scenes are the ones where he gets his hopes up about being able to walk again and someone instantly shuts him down
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7386 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:28 am to
Hodor.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:30 am to
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Hodor.


Speaking of which - if the Hodor police can remember how to log on to TD.com and find this thread? Y'all in for some $hit about the spoilers all up in this thread with no disclaimer.

Hodor.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:52 am to
Well, pushing Bran out of the Window may have been expident. But that doesn't mean he wasn't a bad person for doing it. Heck, the danger to himself, Cersi, the kids and (purportedly) the realm, didn't stop him from shagging her every chance he got so I guess those things weren't even that important to him.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he was smirking when he did it.

Yeah. He was bad at the beginning of the show. He's on a nice redemptin arc now though.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49231 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:54 am to
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Walder Frey/Ramsay Bolton

One killed off half the Starks and the other cut of Theon's dick

Who would root for these guys?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123922 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:02 pm to
Moral ambiguity.


Cut and dry good versus evil, black and white stuff is why so many comic book characters suck.



Superman is shite. A garbage, one dimensional deus ex machina who should have been left in the twinkle-toed CCA era where he belonged.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112215 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Speaking of which - if the Hodor police can remember how to log on to TD.com and find this thread? Y'all in for some $hit about the spoilers all up in this thread with no disclaimer.


Everything in this thread happened in the show.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112215 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:04 pm to
He's a good guy that did bad things in my view.

He's blindly in love with Cercei, so anything shitty that he does, has to do with her.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Everything in this thread happened in the show.


Sure, if you remember it.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:10 pm to
Mad Men cannot get enough praise for this. Minor Spoiler:




-I literally hated Betty for spying on Don and figuring him out. Here is a guy that routinely cheats on his wife, alienates his family, and is a dog. Yet I'm pissed at his wife for finding out.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:15 pm to
Sons of Anarchy. Pretty much the entire cast. If it was happening in your town you'd be in the streets with pitchforks. But somehow you get pulled in to root for the biker gang to eek out their next drug deal or gun running mission.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:25 pm to
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One killed off half the Starks and the other cut of Theon's dick


That's not even the worst thing Ramsay has done in his life, not even close.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15649 posts
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Sons of Anarchy. Pretty much the entire cast. If it was happening in your town you'd be in the streets with pitchforks. But somehow you get pulled in to root for the biker gang to eek out their next drug deal or gun running mission.


Never thought of it like that. I guess the bring you into their personal lives so you can identify with them so you want them to be successful even if you see them have to murder someone in the process.
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