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re: Why Does This Board Support Israel/Zionism?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:46 pm to trackfan
Posted on 7/30/14 at 3:46 pm to trackfan
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Drop the Likudnik line. According to Bill Clinton, the Likud government of Israel offered to give up lands that would be part of Greater Israel for peace with the PLO, but Yassir Arafat rejected the offer made by the Likudniks. The people who haven't abandoned their dreams are Hamas, and their ilk.
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is responsible for the inability to reach a peace deal that would end the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, former U.S. President Bill Clinton said on Thursday. Speaking on the sidelines of the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York, the former U.S. president was quoted by Foreign Policy magazine as claiming that Netanyahu lost interest in the peace process as soon as two basic Israelis demands seemed to come into reach: a viable Palestinian leadership and the possibility of normalizing ties with the Arab world. “The Israelis always wanted two things that once it turned out they had, it didn’t seem so appealing to Mr. Netanyahu,” Clinton said, adding that Israel wanted “to believe they had a partner for peace in a Palestinian government, and there’s no question—and the Netanyahu government has said—that this is the finest Palestinian government they’ve ever had in the West Bank.” “The real cynics believe that the Netanyahu’s government’s continued call for negotiations over borders and such means that he’s just not going to give up the West Bank,” he added.
poodlebrain caught in a lie yet again. i'm somehow not surprised
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:34 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:Not based on the facts of the negotiations.
poodlebrain caught in a lie yet again. i'm somehow not surprised
The revision-free facts are that Arafat walked.
Period.
Barak offered, and offered, and offered.
Arafat had no interest in a deal.
Nothing to do with Sharon.
Had nothing whatsoever to do with Bibi.
Barak has been retrospectively open about the process ( LINK), and its disappointments. Barak lays blame where he should -- at the feet of Arafat. Sadly in the end, Arafat was a tiny man, both in stature and capacity.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 4:51 pm to Burt Reynolds
Pardon me for making a mistake. Ehud Barak was a member of the Labor Party. But what happened in 2008 when Ehud Olmert, a Likud Praty member, made substantially the same offer to Mahmoud Abbas?
My mistake does not change the fact that Likud members have been willing to compromise the ideals that Trackfan attributes to them. Thus, my assertion was correct, but the evidence provided was incorrect. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to correct my mistake.
My mistake does not change the fact that Likud members have been willing to compromise the ideals that Trackfan attributes to them. Thus, my assertion was correct, but the evidence provided was incorrect. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to correct my mistake.
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