re: I'm glad everyone on this board agrees with one another.

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Oh, ok. We're all Americans, so yeah....by your example there's no diversity of thought on this board, no matter how we disagree at times.

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maybe i can put it another way:

the GOP has, in modern times, had 2 major tents. The family values, religious right types who care mostly about social issues and the "fiscal" conservatives who have never really given a damn if guys wanted to bang each other they just want lower taxes all the time.

Since the bailouts in mid 2008 it has become fashionable for that second group to start calling themselves "libertarians". They (understandably) don't want to be associated with the social issues faction of the GOP and are disillusioned with party leaders. They are either trying to wrestle control away from them via the ron pauls of the world or have gone full gary johnson and actually left the party over it.

Those are the types of libertarians we have on this board. At heart they still self identify as "conservative" (even if they don't admit it).

There are other types of libertarians out there, but by and large they don't really exist here nor is the type you're describing sufficiently different enough to separate them completely from the general right wing thought that dominates the board.

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but I think he's way off about conservatives and libertarians being essentially the same.

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i would say many of you have lost objectivity about it. as neither a conservative nor a libertarian i can look at both "groups" dispassionately and assess you much better than you can yourselves.

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Since the bailouts in mid 2008 it has become fashionable for that second group to start calling themselves "libertarians". They (understandably) don't want to be associated with the social issues faction of the GOP and are either trying to wrestle control away from them via the ron pauls of the world or have gone full gary johnson and actually left the party over it.

Those are the types of libertarians we have on this board. At heart they still self identify as "conservative" (even if they don't admit it).

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I see. Your problem is your own bias, thinking you have the ability to read minds and know the heart of man.

It's highly possible that GOP'ers and those who vote third party for president have very different ideals in the political arena.

Social conservatives and libertarian leaning folks disagree far more than they agree. I'll bet you that most of those "Libertarians" agree with you on more issues than they do the social conservative.

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i would say many of you have lost objectivity about it. as neither a conservative nor a libertarian i can look at both "groups" dispassionately and assess you much better than you can yourselves.

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I don't know if you're trolling or just have lost touch with the real world.

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But, like I said in my previous post, who gives a shite?

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You're right, it really isn't all that important. I completely understand not wanting to be lumped in with conservatives so go ahead and call yourselves whatever you want.

I addressed the real issue and it was glossed over:

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the only thing i expect is open mindedness, which is in short supply here. Many on here think their way is the only way and the media has "brainwashed" all these people who don't agree with them. Or that the issues the right has had isn't with them but the fact that women are allowed to vote.

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You're right, it really isn't all that important. I completely understand not wanting to be lumped in with conservatives so go ahead and call yourselves whatever you want.

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And that is why your ability to judge the two groups open-mindedly is skewed.

As for me, I have conservative leanings fiscally, liberal leanings socially, and attempt to keep a realistic view if situations, not always successfully.

I'd probably call myself a classical liberal, but I'm sure that could be disputed.

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the only thing i expect is open mindedness, which is in short supply here. Many on here think their way is the only way and the media has "brainwashed" all these people who don't agree with them. Or that the issues the right has had isn't with them but the fact that women are allowed to vote.

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And I expect open-mindedness as well. It's a two way street.

That is also the reason I like talking with the Democrats on here. They offer something different.

The issue arises when people claim racism or sexism or blah blah blah.

Keep the emotions out of it, and the discussion will go places. That is a lesson everyone should take to heart.

I just skip over the stupid posts.

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Let's not forget ds called the economist a right wing rag once.

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And the wall street journal too.

And cited the daily show with John Stewart as an actual newscast along with media matters as actual news as well.

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while admittedly focused solely on right wing media, does a pretty good job.

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Would depend entirely on your ideology. It feeds those who crave information to satisfy their extreme bias.

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Perhaps, but this board also skews further to the right than just about any other similar board I've seen in SEC/B12 country.

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Are there a lot of other SEC websites with such active political boards?