I agree with some of your points, but what system is better? I think groups like this need to focus more on how money works and/or what is an alternative to debt based infinite growth models. I disagree with you that "technology" will save us. Technology is really just another way to use energy. Once cheap energy goes away, the whole thing will collapse. I don't think it is decades away. I think it is years away.

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Posted by cwill

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 6:03 pm to Bunk Moreland

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Technology is really just another way to use energy. Once cheap energy goes away, the whole thing will collapse. I don't think it is decades away. I think it is years away.

Technology unlocks energy and that technology is getting cheaper as it's perfected. And eventually alternative energy will replace fossil fuels when either the price of fossil fuels becomes greater than the alternatives or the alternatives become cheaper than fossil fuels through tech advancement. You don't realize it but you're the classic malthusian that looks at the current snap shot of time and projects that forward without taking into account man's infinite ability to adapt.

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Posted by Vols&Shaft83

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Posted on 7/23/14 at 6:26 pm to Bunk Moreland

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I agree with some of your points, but what system is better? I think groups like this need to focus more on how money works and/or what is an alternative to debt based infinite growth models. I disagree with you that "technology" will save us. Technology is really just another way to use energy. Once cheap energy goes away, the whole thing will collapse. I don't think it is decades away. I think it is years away.

Tell us about Peak Oil and how we're all fricked