re: When/How do we start punishing parents for disasterous parenting?

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No offense, but that places your growing up/early adult years squarely during the thick of the the Civil Rights Movement. Not exactly the most polite/caring time in our nation's history.

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You are quite correct - I was a teenager and it took about 18 months for me to completely U-turn the thinking I had grown up with. I was sickened by the wickedness of some on the segregation side, and became a big fan of MLK.

However, the society was still polite - albeit segregated. I don't recall any hostility in all my years growing up. We didn't associate, sure, but there was no hostility. In high school, we had to share some equipment (the black school had a mimeograph machine that actually worked, so we went over there to do some rush jobs) There was no hostility nor overt superiority/inferiority displays - just matter-of-fact cooperation.

I don't recall any racial violence in either direction. I grew up in an era where things were just the way they were. I didn't question it beyond the one time when I was about 8 years old when I asked my dad about why there were 'men' 'women' and 'colored' rest rooms in the courthouse. He told me it was because of 'hygiene' and I accepted it as a fact. (I was more excited to learn what the word 'hygiene' meant.)

I know - I know - all you youngsters would have grown up advocating for the overturn of the society you were born into because you are all so much wiser and smarter and more compassionate than we were. Fifty years from now when it is scientifically concluded that abortion kills a living human being (and is therefore morally wrong,) you will all know what I mean.

Just because it took me about 18 months to recognize the moral repugnance of state-enforced segregation, doesn't mean that I reject every single moral precept that I absorbed as I was growing up. Overall, society was a better place back then, and if I could have a do-over on the whole civil-rights movement, I would take it in an instant - hoping to get it right the next time.

The current progressive view of the black community is far far more destructive to black society than segregation ever was. As of now, the black community is nothing but another plantation for which blacks to be subservant to, The progressives harvest their votes and provide them with just enough food, protection, and entertainment to keep them from revolting,

IF we could go back and fix segregation without poisoning them with the 'great society' both sides of the civil rights divide would be in fantastic shape.

Of course most blacks would be voting GOP if that happened so we would not be enjoying all the other blessings that the progressive movement has brought us