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re: Can Rand Bring Blacks Back to the GOP?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:45 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:45 pm to RollTide4Ever
The GOP's biggest problem is the perceived hostility toward minorities. They're going to have to overcome that problem, and it's going to take multiple election cycles to change that image.
Problem is that in the short term they have to hold their base together and that base includes the Angry White Man (TM).
Problem is that in the short term they have to hold their base together and that base includes the Angry White Man (TM).
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:46 pm to RollTide4Ever
I won't have any faith in the black community until they started voting the way most black folks I know claim to believe: conservatively.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:49 pm to imjustafatkid
blacks voting for the gop won't change a thing ...
it'll still be a pub in office, not a conservative ...
it'll still be a pub in office, not a conservative ...
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The exodus of blacks from the GOP can be traced much further back than Goldwater. Warren Harding's shitty response to the Mississippi flood really damaged the image, and then Roosevelt made them a part of his coalition.
That's all true, but the Republican Party didn't become toxic to Blacks until the 1960's lest we forget that Ike carried the Black vote in 1956 and Nixon got 32% in 1960. Before FDR, Black folks were yellow-dog Republicans. During the FDR, Truman and Ike years, they voted similar to the rest of the nation. After Goldwater, they became yellow-dog Democrats.
EDIT: Before the Civil Rights Movement, White Southerners were more devoted to the Democratic than Black folks today. FDR got 99% of the vote in South Carolina and 87% in Mississippi.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:59 pm to trackfan
After he came out against the Civil Rights Act? Come on
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:02 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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After he came out against the Civil Rights Act? Come on
Do you realize that when you make these overreaching, misleading statements it makes you look either spiteful or simple?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:06 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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After he came out against the Civil Rights Act? Come on
Regardless of his intentions for doing so, that will be a frequent talking point used against him by Dems.
Answer to the thread question is no.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:07 pm to tiderider
So anybody that gets a considerable amount of the black vote is automatically not a conservative by virtue of that fact alone? LMAO
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:09 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:This is an outright lie.
After he came out against the Civil Rights Act?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:33 pm to KeyserSoze999
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I agree Romney would have been perfect, but if he can't get as many votes as McLame, then he's finished.
It amazes me how often I see this misstatement of fact on this board.
Romney got a million more votes than McCain did.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:34 pm to RollTide4Ever
There are some responses in this thread that is not helping Rand Paul at all in his outreach.
We all know how poorly off blacks have been under the democrat party and continuing to vote for them but reminding them of that in a harsh way will not get you anywhere. You catch more flies with honey, not vinegar.
Anyway, if Rand can get 10 to 17% of the black vote, he wins the general comfortably.
We all know how poorly off blacks have been under the democrat party and continuing to vote for them but reminding them of that in a harsh way will not get you anywhere. You catch more flies with honey, not vinegar.
Anyway, if Rand can get 10 to 17% of the black vote, he wins the general comfortably.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:47 pm to Sentrius
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Can Rand Bring Blacks Back to the GOP?
maybe with a Herman Cain as a running mate, don't see many black conservatives with the potential to help him though, maybe someone like Jennifer Carroll from FL as well. The Alan Wests and Alan Keyes are too big a lighting rod for the Jesse Jacksons and white liberals to attach their hate to.
The more moderate Rice's and Powells just don't inspire much from the independent and conservative base.
Of course the Rove Repubs will do whatever they can to destroy Rand and anyone who stands with him.
Death and more of the same D.C. stupidity is about the only thing we can count on.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:39 pm to HubbaBubba
"Airport Minority Contractors' Association "
Do you see the irony in pandering to a group of voters who self segregate and interests all revolve around race, such as the group above.
For Rand Paul to bring in a bloc of African Americans his message and ideology would be so watered down and compromised his base would seek other options.
Do you see the irony in pandering to a group of voters who self segregate and interests all revolve around race, such as the group above.
For Rand Paul to bring in a bloc of African Americans his message and ideology would be so watered down and compromised his base would seek other options.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:08 pm to Sentrius
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There are some responses in this thread that is not helping Rand Paul at all in his outreach.
We all know how poorly off blacks have been under the democrat party and continuing to vote for them but reminding them of that in a harsh way will not get you anywhere. You catch more flies with honey, not vinegar
Wasn't it Bobby Jindal who said you can't get people to vote for you by insulting them?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 5:47 pm to trackfan
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Wasn't it Bobby Jindal who said you can't get people to vote for you by insulting them?
If they support Hilbilary after the "I come to Farrrrrr... " "I aint no ways near tarrrrrrd" drivel that beast insulted them with at Selma, not sure it matters anymore.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:04 pm to trackfan
quote:Link? Seriously, I would love to see the evidence to support this. If you can provide it, I will admit I was wrong.
most Blacks are middle-class, while only a minority live on government assistance
quote:I'm aware of that. But re: Rand Paul "bringing blacks back to the GOP," those in higher socio-economic categories would be much, much more likely to convert first. IMO.
Black folks vote overwhelmingly Democrat across the socio-economic spectrum
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:10 pm to Jagd Tiger
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The more moderate Rice's and Powells just don't inspire much from the independent and conservative base.
Rice and Powell also have the stench of the Bush administration on them.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:50 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Link? Seriously, I would love to see the evidence to support this. If you can provide it, I will admit I was wrong.
Use google my friend. The fact that you were unaware of this goes a long way to explaining Angry White Guy syndrome. Were you also unaware of the fact that most of the folks on welfare are White?
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I'm aware of that. But re: Rand Paul "bringing blacks back to the GOP," those in higher socio-economic categories would be much, much more likely to convert first. IMO.
Education enhances open-mindedness across all races, religions and ethic groups.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is an outright lie.
Wow. So he's a plagiarist AND a history revisionist.
LINK
He's a perfect candidate!
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PAUL: You had to ask me the "but." I don't like the idea of telling private business owners — I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant — but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership. But I absolutely think there should be no discrimination in anything that gets any public funding, and that’s most of what I think the Civil Rights Act was about in my mind.
So in other words ... when Paul says "the Civil Rights Act" .... he's not talking about the actual Civil Rights Act (the one that regulates state and local government as well as private enterprise) - he's talking about the fake one in his head. WOW. NOW it all makes fricking sense!
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:03 pm to trackfan
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Were you also unaware of the fact that most of the folks on welfare are White?
Percentage of population-wise???
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