re: I am stunned that 87% of Obamacare enrollees are getting subsidies

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I thought the tax credits were separate support systems?

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Americans who bought plans on the Obamacare exchanges are entitled to premium assistance tax credits on a sliding scale, if they earn up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level. For 2014, the income limit tops out at $45,960 for an individual, and $94,200 for a family of four.

In a report published in Health Affairs, researchers at UC Berkeley and UCLA calculated that in California, three out of four subsidy recipients will likely see their income change more than 10 percent year-over-year, and that will result in about a third having to make repayments. According to the researchers, for about one in 10, it could amount to a full repayment because their higher incomes will put them above the 400 percent poverty level.
How much you'll have to repay depends on your income. For those earning below the 400 percent of poverty limit, maximum repayment requirements range from $300 to $1,250. Those with income gains that put over the 400 percent limit will have to repay the full amount of the tax credit.

And those figures represent those that were accurate with their Obamacare signups.


Obama subsidies could hurt at tax time

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The National Average Wage Index for 2012 had the national average wage at $44,321.67. The median income for 2013 was $51k.

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My question is this: do families that have this level of income really need subsidies?

85% of Americans were able to find afordable coverage before the ACA

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I am stunned that 87% of Obamacare enrollees are getting subsidies

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I'm not. For liberal progressives it's all about placating the ignorant masses with government dependency to keep that lock-step voting block. In other words it's all about power through control.

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It's not a subsidy; it's an advanced tax credit. It's actually based on a previous year's income.

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It's a subsidy because the Government still has to pay the amount of the credit to insurance companies.

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Hlbig vs. Burwell. A ruling is imminent.

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seems like we have been hearing that for a month

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We have.


The funny thing is congress intentionally wrote in the legislation that states that do NOT implement state run exchanges will not be eligible for subsidies. Subsidies were the carrot congress was dangling in the states' faces to entice them to implement the exchanges.

Now that the initial phases of the ACA are in full effect the federal government has neglected the law and are doling out subsidies to the 34 states that have not implemented exchanges despite the plan language In the law..

We are now at the point with the ACA where the federal subsidies are essentially required for the long term survival of Obamacre. Without the subsidies low income families (much more than half) won't be able to afford health insurance.

So here we are, with tremendous pressure on the judicial system to perform legal gymnastics to rule in favor of HSS which will be plainly tantamount to legislating from the bench.

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My question is this: do families that have this level of income really need subsidies?

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They do now.

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85% of Americans were able to find afordable coverage before the ACA

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Key words: before the ACA.

And then it'll go to SCOTUS

Tough to slow the FSA. (Free shite Army)