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re: Hulk from Avengers
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:34 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:34 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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No, it's completely about convenience. How can we make the hulk frick everything up? We'll just blame the rod for him trying to kill black widow and Thor.
How is that convenient? That's part of the narrative, combine that with the idea that if Hulk is unleashed he smashes everything. Easy to understand.
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It's not like they were in the presence of the rod both before and after this, and weren't at each other's throats..... Oh wait, of course they were.
Like i said, it wasn't communicated well but all the evidence was there.
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So the rod had tony all fricked up, but they made a point to show how it has ZERO effect on him later? Did I miss the scene when they took their anti-rod pills?
Later when? After they realize Loki and the Rod are messing with them? Maybe once you're conscious of being affected you aren't anymore, at least not without someone directly controlling the rod
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So, something was up with Loki's rod, and it made Tony tired (at this point, but not earlier or later), Thor drunk, and the Hulk want to kill all the good guys.
The rod can sort of act on it's own. Considering it like the Ring of Power from LOTR. It affected everyone at the council and made them fight. But after the council it doesn't have much of an effect. Then Boromir picks it up and he feels it. Then he lets it go. Same kind of thing. It was a "will" because it's the mind control gem.
Again, it isn't communicated well enough, we know.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:11 pm to Freauxzen
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How is that convenient? That's part of the narrative, combine that with the idea that if Hulk is unleashed he smashes everything. Easy to understand.
If you only focus on the scene on the ship, and Hulk trying to kill all the good guys, and disregard the rest of the movie, then the ship scene works fine. Look at it all:
They (the good guys) were already weary of bringing Banner, because of the risk
He goes apeshit, and tries to kill everything (because of the staff)
He shows up later, and boy are they happy to see the baddest fricker in town, who just happens to have almost killed BW, and gave Thor all he could handle.
Yay! Now we get to hear someone say "Hulksmash"!!
Regardless, everything that happens on the ship is really just filler, for the most part.
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Like i said, it wasn't communicated well but all the evidence was there.
I'm not arguing that there was something up with Loki's rod, and it made them fricked up. It just wasn't consistent with other shite that went down.
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Later when? After they realize Loki and the Rod are messing with them?
No, when he taps tony on the chest with his rod, and it has no effect, implying that while Loki's rod might conquer the hearts of others, Tony's chest dealio is resistant to Loki's rod.
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Maybe once you're conscious of being affected you aren't anymore, at least not without someone directly controlling the rod
This looks like it should end with a "?"
But again, Loki's rod/Tony's chest
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The rod can sort of act on it's own. Considering it like the Ring of Power from LOTR. It affected everyone at the council and made them fight. But after the council it doesn't have much of an effect. Then Boromir picks it up and he feels it. Then he lets it go. Same kind of thing. It was a "will" because it's the mind control gem.
I fall asleep at the mere mention of LOTR. You example means little to me.
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