Have to be careful looking at ypa for back-up RBs. They are often put into situations as back-ups that don't play out when they are starting.

I'm on your side overall in this discussion, but I've seen this particular argument blow up too often.

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Posted by Gtothemoney

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Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:23 pm to BhamTigah

You tell em B.

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Posted by GynoSandberg

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Posted on 8/5/14 at 7:23 pm to BhamTigah

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Have to be careful looking at ypa for back-up RBs. They are often put into situations as back-ups that don't play out when they are starting.

Well, I figured it was a perfect counter to the dumb argument that he played 16 games and only had 120/559/4 and 20/145. But he played 16 games!!!!!!!! What part of backup RB and KNowshon getting 250 carries and 60 receptions do we not understand? How much workload is left?

I posted this earlier in the thread

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Were his numbers bad last year or something? He was the RB2 in Denver. Ball's accumulative numbers weren't there, obviously. 15 carries was the most he saw in a game.

11/61 vs OAK
7/40 vs NE
13/117 vs KC
15/77 vs TEN
10/72 vs OAK
10/52 vs SD

That's not even with his receiving stats. He gashed defenses in limited duty.

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I think he's a first round back and will put up first round numbers but, I don't have the stones to pick him up there.

You know, I am usually the same way.

Reading this article changed my mind:

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Myth 1: Because of poor ball security, he shouldn't be trusted carrying fine china, babies or oblong objects wrapped in brown leather. It's always difficult to erase early season memories. On his first 33 touches, Ball put the pill on the ground twice, one in front of large national TV audience in the Manning Bowl. As a result, he quickly gained a butter-hands reputation. However, he only coughed it up one time over his next 140 grips. In college, that streak was barely a drop in the bucket. While at Wisconsin, he didn't fumble until his 803rd career touch. Let that soak in for a moment. His early hiccups were fluky. When it comes to holding onto the rock, the man is the definition of reliable.

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Myth 2: When oncoming rushers shoot through the gap, he morphs into Casper, the sack friendly ghost. Several scouts questioned Ball's ability to pick up the blitz entering last season's NFL Draft. More of a cut blocker, it was an area of concern. Throughout training camp and the preseason, he occasionally struggled identifying and blowing up the oncoming rush, missteps that practically cemented Moreno's stake as RB1. However, being the worker bee Ball is, he greatly improved as the season wore on. In fact, according to Pro Football Focus, he graded out higher than Knowshon in pass blocking. At first he experienced a few growing pains, but he developed into a trustworthy protector.

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Bottom line: Drafters who buy into the above myths will stupidly bypass a sure-fire RB1 in drafts this summer. The offensive environment and lack of meaningful competition (Enough with the C.J. Anderson is 'God' chatter, haters), practically rubber stamps a 300-touch workload. Peyton Manning, who's sung Ball's praises this offseason, has the utmost confidence the rusher will take the next step. History supports that notion. As industry colleague Denny Carter recently pointed out, primary RBs who've played alongside No. 18 averaged 1,518 combined yards and 10.4 touchdowns per season, an output nearly identical to what DeMarco Murray, the eighth-best rusher in fantasy, accomplished last year. And, again, that's just the average. Ball, like Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai and Moreno before him, will see few defenders in the box. A top-five season is on the horizon.

We will just have to let this one play out