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re: So Messi wins the Golden Ball
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:46 pm to Xenophon
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:46 pm to Xenophon
Messi didn't score as many goals as one would expect but his presence on the field completely altered how teams tried to defend.
I still think the Golden Glove should go to Tim Howard though. Sure, Neuer had a number of clean sheets but he had better players in front of him.
I still think the Golden Glove should go to Tim Howard though. Sure, Neuer had a number of clean sheets but he had better players in front of him.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:49 pm to Keys Open Doors
Zidane really wasn't great before the Quarterfinals in 2006.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:50 pm to foshizzle
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I still think the Golden Glove should go to Tim Howard though. Sure, Neuer had a number of clean sheets but he had better players in front of him.
To be honest, Ochoa deserves it more than Howard.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:53 pm to ohiovol
Macherano was better than Messi
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:11 pm to ohiovol
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Ochoa deserves it more than Howard.
Howard plays for USA. Ochoa plays for Mexico. When did you start hating America?
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:25 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Zidane
GOAT
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0 goals in elimination play
Doesn't matter. Messi and James Rodriquez were the only options IMO. Muller was fantastic, but he was playing with 10 other superstars on the field with him and about 5 more on the bench. Messi and James carried their teams out of the group stage and Messi drug Argentina all the way to the finals without any offensive help. It was well deserved.
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Macherano was better than Messi
He wasn't better than Messi, but he does deserve to be considered because he was a rock for Argentina. Still not more deserving than Messi for the award IMO
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:38 pm to RB10
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Doesn't matter. Messi and James Rodriquez were the only options IMO. Muller was fantastic, but he was playing with 10 other superstars on the field with him and about 5 more on the bench. Messi and James carried their teams out of the group stage and Messi drug Argentina all the way to the finals without any offensive help. It was well deserved.
James certainly didn't carry Colombia in the group stage. He may have been their best player, but they weren't wholly dependent on him. Not to say he wasn't great.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:41 pm to Broski
You are right. He probably was top 5.
But James, Muller and Robben would be easily ahead on my ballot.
But James, Muller and Robben would be easily ahead on my ballot.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:50 pm to Xenophon
Interesting side note...the votes had to be in by halftime of the Final.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:51 pm to Xenophon
He pretty much carried his team single handedly through pool play.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:54 pm to reedus23
So he played well against Nigeria, Iran and Bosnia. Is that worth the Golden Ball?
James scored in every game.
James scored in every game.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:56 pm to Xenophon
It's a travesty that James didn't win it.
1) James
2) Robben
3) Müller
4) Mascherano
5) Neymar/Messi/Neuer
1) James
2) Robben
3) Müller
4) Mascherano
5) Neymar/Messi/Neuer
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:57 pm to reedus23
Without Mascherano, Argentina wouldn't have sniffed the finals IMO
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:58 pm to Jwho77
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Interesting side note...the votes had to be in by halftime of the Final.
This kinda shows the award doesn't mean shite. It's just a popularity contest. FIFA is clueless.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:01 pm to hendersonshands
Put muller above Robben and i like that list.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:02 pm to hendersonshands
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Without Mascherano, Argentina wouldn't have sniffed the finals IMO
Probably right, but he still wasn't better than Messi. He stood out because he ran his balls off and surprised some people, but he wasn't better than Messi. Just because Messi wasn't his usual Barcelona best, he was still great.
That said, Messi didn't deserve it. James did.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:04 pm to mynamebowl
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Probably right, but he still wasn't better than Messi.
I think Mascherano was better. Messi is amazing but Mascherano was incredible, he honestly carried that team for 240 straight minutes, at least.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:05 pm to Xenophon
Yeah, it's debatable. No one loves Tommy Fußball more than me. I think Robben might have been just a little better, which isn't a slight to anyone. We saw some amazing performances.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 11:09 pm to hendersonshands
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Mascherano was incredible
Agreed. Not a lot of players out there versatile enough to play CB for Barca and then move to the midfield for an Argentina World Cup finals run.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:14 am to hendersonshands
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Without Mascherano, Argentina wouldn't have sniffed the finals IMO
Yeah, we were one torn anus away from seeing Robben score the winner in the semis. Mascherano was incredible and probably Argentina's best player in the last few matches.
And that's not a dig at Messi - Mascherano was just that fricking good.
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