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re: Fallujah: The untold story

Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 2:24 pm to
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geaux


I'm in the dark on this battle. What happened during the battle?

ETA: just looked up the basics of the battle. What were your thoughts on black water contractors? Did you respect them? Fighting for the same intentions?
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 4:06 pm to
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I'm in the dark on this battle. What happened during the battle?


The link above is for the first battle of Fallujah.

I was in the second Battle of Fallujah. Also called Operation Phantom Fury or Peration Al Fajr.

LINK

The first battle was in the immediate aftermath of the Blackwater killings. The Marine commanders were actually opposed to assaulting the city. They recommended a series of pinpoint raids to bring the killers to justice. The WH disagreed and the Marines went in. After a few days and heavy casualties the Marines were told to cease their assault. What was called the "Fallujah Brigade" was formed to police the city and quell the violence. This didn't exactly work out and Fallujah became basically home base for the insurgency in Iraq with zero American presence in the city.

In November of 2004 the decision was made to retake the city once and for all. It was basically a few thousand Marines on line pushing through the city from the North. It was very bloody for both sides. Basically the exact opposite of what you normally envision when you think about the Iraq war. There actually was a front line. The problem was that it was highly publicized and eventually became a rallying cry for the insurgents in Iraq. It really was on of the turning points of the war and probably eventually produced more insurgents than we actually killed, and we killed a frickton of them.

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What were your thoughts on black water contractors? Did you respect them? Fighting for the same intentions?



Didn't run into many of them over there. I think most of the guys just want ed to make a decent paycheck for their families. Some of them truly wanted to do their part for their country, and some of them were trigger happy psychos. I think what's important to consider is that for all intents and purposes these guys were a military force in Iraq. Maybe not in our eyes but certainly in the eyes of every Iraqi. There's really no disputing it. They were part of the war effort and they were armed. Their uniform was cargo pants and cool shades as opposed to desert camouflage.

Here's a video that will give a pretty good feel for the battle.

Warning: GRAPHIC
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 4:23 pm
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