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re: Jason Riley of the WSJ with 2 doozies this week re: blacks in Chicago

Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:06 pm to
Conservatives care so much about the breakdown of the black family and yet all they do is wring their hands. They don't offer any solution except that blacks should vote Republican.

Conservatives want to cut spending of social services and education and then they wonder why the black family is in crisis. They somehow blame a ghetto culture that they cannot identify or prove actually exists except ontologically. They imagine a ghetto culture so it thus exists.

They somehow claim to have facts that welfare, unplanned pregnancies and and food stamps lead to a ghetto culture. That they cannot prove exists. They claim a culture of dependency that they cannot prove exists except ontologically.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58271 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:08 pm to
You right. Send more money!!!
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:31 pm to
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They somehow claim to have facts that welfare, unplanned pregnancies and and food stamps lead to a ghetto culture.


I don't think they claim one causes another as much as they deride those who exploit the poor for political gain.

And conservatives have been showing links between single-parent homes and violent crime for decades. Here's a fantastic piece from Heritage from 1995. LINK
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26666 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:33 pm to
Maybe if you pulled your damn pants up and turned down the hippity-hop music you'd make some sense.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:28 pm to
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They somehow claim to have facts that welfare, unplanned pregnancies and and food stamps lead to a ghetto culture. That they cannot prove exists. They claim a culture of dependency that they cannot prove exists except ontologically. 
You can't be fricking serious?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:34 pm to
Cut and paste much?
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12577 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:38 pm to
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unplanned pregnancies and and food stamps lead to a ghetto culture.


they do get more money with the more babies they have... so why not have 5 or 6, the government will pay you for them plus they get free breakfast and lunch at school.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52919 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 11:22 pm to
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Conservatives care so much about the breakdown of the black family and yet all they do is wring their hands. They don't offer any solution except that blacks should vote Republican.


Blacks have been voting democrat neolithicly for over 40 years. Where has that gotten them?

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onservatives want to cut spending of social services and education and then they wonder why the black family is in crisis. They somehow blame a ghetto culture that they cannot identify or prove actually exists except ontologically. They imagine a ghetto culture so it thus exists.


But the thing is spending on social services has increased exponentially every year and black crime has gotten equally worse.

Your arguments are actually counter to what you intend.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72193 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 9:11 am to
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Conservatives care so much about the breakdown of the black family and yet all they do is wring their hands. They don't offer any solution except that blacks should vote Republican.
Well, no one can offer solutions except for the black community.
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They somehow blame a ghetto culture that they cannot identify or prove actually exists except ontologically. They imagine a ghetto culture so it thus exists.
It does, in fact, exist. Observation is a critical aspect of sociological study. Denying what is seen in inner city communities, such as Chicago, and writing these problems off as "societal problems," rather than addressing them as "cultural problems" does nothing to help the situation.
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They somehow claim to have facts that welfare, unplanned pregnancies and and food stamps lead to a ghetto culture.
I don't believe they lead to "ghetto culture," as you put it, but I do believe they exacerbate the issue.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9809 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 9:34 am to
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Conservatives want to cut spending of social services and education and then they wonder why the black family is in crisis.

what's the plan? Pay them to be better citizens?
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