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re: LA ranked 4th best state in US for food/drink
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:52 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:52 am to Mike da Tigah
because that is what I said?
I said that is what puts Houston over Austin. Houston matches up quite well with everything Austin has to offer, but Austin does not come close to the ethnic diversity of Houston's food scene.
And yes, diversity is something that makes a great food city.
I said that is what puts Houston over Austin. Houston matches up quite well with everything Austin has to offer, but Austin does not come close to the ethnic diversity of Houston's food scene.
And yes, diversity is something that makes a great food city.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:06 am to Salmon
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because that is what I said?
Yeah
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I said that is what puts Houston over Austin. Houston matches up quite well with everything Austin has to offer, but Austin does not come close to the ethnic diversity of Houston's food scene. And yes, diversity is something that makes a great food city.
Everything is ethnic food Salmon. Say what you mean. Which ethnicity are you looking for?
I mean Baton Rouge has a very diverse grouping of foods from different ethnicities. The fricking mall has that in their food court. Does that make it a great food city, or does doing great food and people placing a huge importance of food in their lives make a city a great food city?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:11 am to Mike da Tigah
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Which ethnicity are you looking for?
all kinds...and Houston has almost everything
Houston has a huge international community
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does doing great food and people placing a huge importance of food in their lives make a city a great food city?
this "people placing huge importance on food" argument you have is just based on your media influenced perception of the 2 cities
plenty of people in Houston place importance on good food just as their are plenty of people in Austin that only care about "being seen"
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:36 am to Salmon
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this "people placing huge importance on food" argument you have is just based on your media influenced perception of the 2 cities
No, it's not. It's based on personal experience, and what drives cities, and Houston isn't driven by food.
I have no interest in average food from around the globe like one giant smorgasbord of average to sub par food that isn't even very good depictions of said ethnic food, but Americanized to death.
What I really desire in a good food city is bad arse food by people who pour their hearts and souls into the food, which is clearly evident by the product the are consistent in delivering. Houston just doesn't bring that on average. Austin does. NOLA does. SF does. NYC does. That's what makes them great food cities. Maybe Houston is on their way, but I am hesitant to use population from the 3rd largest city in America and translate that into them being a people who place a huge sense of importance on serious food in their lives. Money doesn't do that. Population doesn't do that. The culture of the city which is the people do that. Houston has always been driven by one thing, and that's big business and money alone. The people and culture that settled the place were not food people, and had nothing to really draw from to make that an important thing in their lives. Now, maybe that's changing through people moving to the city for business, but it's going to take a whole lot of migration there to change directions in my estimation.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:37 am to Mike da Tigah
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but Americanized to death.
you know nothing Mike
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:41 am to tigerbait2010
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With Houston, Dallas, and Austin, Texas absolutely is top 5
Throw in San Antonio too. Texas is definitely top three in my ranking. Louisiana at #4 is great spot when you consider the size of CA, NY, and TX.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:46 am to lsudude24
Surprised to see Nevada so low just because of Vegas. There are better places, but I don't know if places like Bama are better.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:48 am to Salmon
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you know nothing Mike
You're right. I know nothing.
Houston is Food Central, our Chinese food comes from China, our Tex Mex comes from Texmexico, and America doesn't Americanize ethnic food. Think I'll go get me a Cajun blackened chicken sandwich today for lunch to celebrate.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:48 am to Mike da Tigah
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True, but to be fair
I think you missed the part where he was making the same point as you
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:52 am to Mike da Tigah
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Houston is Food Central, our Chinese food comes from China, our Tex Mex comes from Texmexico, and America doesn't Americanize ethnic food. Think I'll go get me a Cajun blackened chicken sandwich today for lunch to celebrate.
like I said, you are obviously very ignorant on the Houston food scene and are basing your beliefs on your own biased perception and not reality
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:07 am to Salmon
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Salmon
I agree. I've lived and traveled all over the country. The diversity and quality of food in Houston matches up with almost any city in the country. It's not apparent at first given the number of chains lining the interstate and the large suburbs, but once you know where to look it's an amazing and diverse selection.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:12 am to lsudude24
Much as I enjoy Houston v. Nola thread #349,621, back on topic.
I think there are three main variables that could explain in this list, in order of importance:
(1) Have a coastline. Seafood obviously helps, and more importantly, until 40 years ago you needed access to water to import any foods from out of the state or country. Kansas food is so limited because it's all grown in and around Kansas. I like beef and bread, but I don't only like beef and bread.
(2) Have a major metropolitan port. Cities, and especially port cities, are melting pots that foster cultural and culinary cross-pollination and experimentation. Like the Cubans in Miami pulling up Florida. Call it the John Folse theory.
(3) Fruits grow there. Not limited to fruits strictly, but any "flavor" foods; also includes peppers and other non-starchy vegetables. Note that all the traditional farming states, the breadbasket, are at the arse end. Because what do they farm? Potatoes, soybeans, and high fructose corn syrup.
I think there are three main variables that could explain in this list, in order of importance:
(1) Have a coastline. Seafood obviously helps, and more importantly, until 40 years ago you needed access to water to import any foods from out of the state or country. Kansas food is so limited because it's all grown in and around Kansas. I like beef and bread, but I don't only like beef and bread.
(2) Have a major metropolitan port. Cities, and especially port cities, are melting pots that foster cultural and culinary cross-pollination and experimentation. Like the Cubans in Miami pulling up Florida. Call it the John Folse theory.
(3) Fruits grow there. Not limited to fruits strictly, but any "flavor" foods; also includes peppers and other non-starchy vegetables. Note that all the traditional farming states, the breadbasket, are at the arse end. Because what do they farm? Potatoes, soybeans, and high fructose corn syrup.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:22 am to Salmon
To add so Salmon's point, I'm about to go to lunch here in Houston and I can pick from..
sushi
indian
Chinese
lebanese
burgers
bbq
authentic mexican
tex-mex
southwestern
american delicatessen
oysters
pizza
Italian
seafood
cheese steak
steak house
Brazilian steak house
British Pub
just off the top of my head and all what I would consider true "restaurants" and not franchise type places. And within 10 mins drive from where i am.
Not sayin its the greatest but you cant throw a rock around here without hitting a damn good place to eat.
sushi
indian
Chinese
lebanese
burgers
bbq
authentic mexican
tex-mex
southwestern
american delicatessen
oysters
pizza
Italian
seafood
cheese steak
steak house
Brazilian steak house
British Pub
just off the top of my head and all what I would consider true "restaurants" and not franchise type places. And within 10 mins drive from where i am.
Not sayin its the greatest but you cant throw a rock around here without hitting a damn good place to eat.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:35 am to Cold Cous Cous
And as for the list, I see Oregon, tenn and Colorado getting too much love imo.
And not enough love for S Carolina and Flordia.
I don't think Illinois should be top 5, but I'm not sure what to replace it with.
And not enough love for S Carolina and Flordia.
I don't think Illinois should be top 5, but I'm not sure what to replace it with.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:40 am to Salmon
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like I said, you are obviously very ignorant on the Houston food scene and are basing your beliefs on your own biased perception and not reality
Clearly, the culinary world in general is in the dark. Houston is a top 5 food city right up there with New Orleans. They have a lot of adequate ethnic places to eat.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:45 am to Mike da Tigah
or maybe it is just you that is in the dark...
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:02 am to Salmon
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or maybe it is just you that is in the dark...
dude that's a magazine they give out for free to AmEx cardholders. About as legit as citing American Airline's inflight mag.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:05 am to Salmon
Woah... Is that fish in a brick? And grill marks on green onions?
Holy shite... It's even in a cast iron pan, which is about as commercial kitchen as it gets.
Man, did I have it wrong. Look out NOLA... Houston is wicked bad arse. They got themselves some ethnicity now. It's over. Last chef in town, turn out the lights.
Holy shite... It's even in a cast iron pan, which is about as commercial kitchen as it gets.
Man, did I have it wrong. Look out NOLA... Houston is wicked bad arse. They got themselves some ethnicity now. It's over. Last chef in town, turn out the lights.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:13 am to Mike da Tigah
:sigh:
I have no idea why you are so adamant that Houston cannot or does not have good food.
I don't live in Houston. I don't care about Houston. I actually like Austin better as a city. But I'm also not dumb and realize that Houston has legit food.
But whatever. I'm done arguing Houston vs Austin. For someone who is always talking about "sheeple" and whatnot, you sure fell head first for the Austin marketing campaign.
I have no idea why you are so adamant that Houston cannot or does not have good food.
I don't live in Houston. I don't care about Houston. I actually like Austin better as a city. But I'm also not dumb and realize that Houston has legit food.
But whatever. I'm done arguing Houston vs Austin. For someone who is always talking about "sheeple" and whatnot, you sure fell head first for the Austin marketing campaign.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:15 am to Salmon
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I have no idea why you are so adamant that Houston cannot or does not have good food.
I didn't say it didn't have good food. Every city with a significant population and money like that of Houston is going to have serious food. It's just that it's not a city centered around food to be called a top 5 or even top 10 greatest food city in America, and it's much more the exception than the rule.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 11:17 am
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