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re: US Southern Command Chief: Crime/Terror Convergence on Boarder is Huge Threat
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:58 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:58 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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t would cost literally hundreds of billions less to fly them back to their own countries than it would to take care of them and their children and grandchildren for their entire lives.
Well sure it would if that is what actually happens. They won't be just flown back though. They'll arrive to new facilities to live in in those countries paid for with US $. Anyway you go at it it will cost money. One way is just more apparent than the other.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:59 am to wfeliciana
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Personally I don't have a problem with using available programs to help staunch the problem at its root.
Quite frankly, that is wrongheaded thinking. As my children were growing up they were disciplined (when necessary) in order to punish poor behavior. We are rewarding it. Building schools, medical clinics and police stations in Central America is the same as building them in Afghanistan. If you do not have teachers, medical providers and policemen to man them then they are worthless. This is an issue that the Central American countries need to address. Send them back to point of origin and stop the (well intentioned but wrongheaded) behavior patterns.
Seriously, I can tell you personal stories that make me sick to my stomach where our best intentions have turned out horribly wrong.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:06 am to Wolfhound45
I don't disagree with part of what you are saying. I think you have to have a mix of carrot and stick. We often spend our HAP, FMS, and counter narcotics money in the wrong way.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:08 am to wfeliciana
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Well sure it would if that is what actually happens. They won't be just flown back though. They'll arrive to new facilities to live in in those countries paid for with US $. Anyway you go at it it will cost money. One way is just more apparent than the other.
Even if we paid for the facilities for 10 or 15 years you're still talking about an exponentially smaller investment.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:11 am to wfeliciana
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I don't disagree with part of what you are saying. I think you have to have a mix of carrot and stick. We often spend our HAP, FMS, and counter narcotics money in the wrong way.
Honestly? It is time to de-militarize our foreign policy, period. If we think these things are so important then they should be under the direction of the Department of State. We are too impatient and it is just too easy (regardless as to political party) to turn to the Department of Defense to fix them.
Partner - you train and equip xx number of policeman - we assist you in building yy number of police stations. Same with schools and medical clinics. We give them this infrastructure and it just sits there and rots. Insane.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:46 am to Wolfhound45
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It is time to de-militarize our foreign policy, period. If we think these things are so important then they should be under the direction of the Department of State. We are too impatient and it is just too easy (regardless as to political party) to turn to the Department of Defense to fix them
I don't argue with de-militarize foreign policy, but I do know the military fights just as hard to keep it rather than lose it. They don't want to wait on USAID or big State to do the job, they want the money to do it quickly (well that's a relative term).
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