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re: Didn't like the Hobby Lobby decision? Look at the follow up decisions
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:40 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:40 pm to Antonio Moss
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quote: When I read these broad statements and remember you are a lawyer, I am astounded. What happened to the right to life, liberty, and property, and not being denied these without due process of law? Property rights include these entitlements for which you show so much disdain. There is so much wrong with the paragraph. There was never an issue of the rights of the employees of Hobby Lobby because they possessed no right to the abortifacients. Second, what do you thing due process is? This case went all the way through the Supreme Court. That's the extent of the process this country has.
I was not responding to the Hobby Lobby decision, rather to an attorney's broad statements regarding entitlements. Perhaps if you chose to respond to comments in context, which I quoted, you might have some validity in your derision. Unfortunately, you have created a strawman, which is very weak.
I'm glad you were so proud of putting me down you posted twice. Warms my heart...
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:42 pm to casualobserver
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I'm glad you were so proud of putting me down you posted twice. Warms my heart...
I don't see where he "put you down".
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:45 pm to casualobserver
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I'm glad you were so proud of putting me down you posted twice. Warms my heart...
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casualobserver
Casual observance indeed...
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:25 pm to casualobserver
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rather to an attorney's broad statements regarding entitlements
which isn't incorrect
the system is fricked by fedgov interjecting itself into the private lives of people. after a while, these interjections become the norm. then entitlements are seen as property, which is utter insanity (and a major clue that we've allowed fedgov to over-expand into the system) then fedgov will interject itself even more. wash, rinse, repeat, and you get the near police state that we're living in today
this isn't a right/left issue or a DEM/GOP issue...this is an issue of liberty and property rights
you're claiming some "gotcha" because you're assuming my preferred, rational policy choices are the existing legal framework. i never said this was the existing framework. i clearly said the existing framework was fricked, and the quote in the OP sums up just how fricked it is.
again, this is what i said
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all you're seeing is government interjecting itself into the system and fricking it up, creating these mythical "rights" out of government entitlement. public entitlements are NOT rights, and this view (as i noted in page one) is pure insanity
and this whole discussion shows how insane the current system is
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 10:27 pm
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