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re: DAT 6/25 The Tomahawk Chop can suck it thread
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:49 pm to ehidal1
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:49 pm to ehidal1
It's too soon to completely give up on Grossman. He does have some valuable skill sets. I know we get sick of the players that are overly aggressive and have no plate discipline. See the swing at everything mentality (Carter, Springer).
Grossman is the opposite of that. He strikes out a lot but his problem is he doesn't swing enough. I looked at some of his advanced batting stats and he's seeing 4.09 pitches per plate appearance this year which would be (he doesn't have enough PA to rank) good for 17th in the AL. For his career, 48% of his total strikeouts have been looking. A guy who might be have a similar skill set would be Shin Soo Choo IMO. A somewhat toolsy OF who strikes out a lot but also walks a good bit. His strikeout looking percent is around 26%.
You don't want to crucify a guy who's selective in his at bats but I think with Grossman, his patience is actually hindering his success at the plate. During his first stint last year, his batting average was .198 but his walk rate over 162 games would have gotten him 93 walks. Conversely, when he got called back up last year, he hit .322 but his walk rate over a full season would result in 36 walks. This year, his walk rate for both of his stints with the major league team would be over 80 walks a season. Sorry for the novel, my point is Grossman showed some promise last year of being a competent player but he just needs to be more aggressive.
Grossman is the opposite of that. He strikes out a lot but his problem is he doesn't swing enough. I looked at some of his advanced batting stats and he's seeing 4.09 pitches per plate appearance this year which would be (he doesn't have enough PA to rank) good for 17th in the AL. For his career, 48% of his total strikeouts have been looking. A guy who might be have a similar skill set would be Shin Soo Choo IMO. A somewhat toolsy OF who strikes out a lot but also walks a good bit. His strikeout looking percent is around 26%.
You don't want to crucify a guy who's selective in his at bats but I think with Grossman, his patience is actually hindering his success at the plate. During his first stint last year, his batting average was .198 but his walk rate over 162 games would have gotten him 93 walks. Conversely, when he got called back up last year, he hit .322 but his walk rate over a full season would result in 36 walks. This year, his walk rate for both of his stints with the major league team would be over 80 walks a season. Sorry for the novel, my point is Grossman showed some promise last year of being a competent player but he just needs to be more aggressive.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 5:15 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 6:15 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Good analysis. Luhnow went after some once upper level prospects who weren't producing and their teams were ready to give them up as easy pieces in trades. The potential is there, whether he reaches is a different story.
I am not ready to give up on him yet. Last night was tough.
I am not ready to give up on him yet. Last night was tough.
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