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Can someone tell me what the "liberal agenda" is?

Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:45 am
Posted by The Calvin
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:45 am
I hear that and the "liberal media" as well as "gay agenda" mentioned so much when conservatives debate moral issues and I have to wonder if they really believe that someone with a different political view or sexual orientation have an endgame that is ultimately harmful to America.

It seems there is a lot of conspiracy as to what is "really going on" and what this or that group is trying to accomplish when all it amounts to in the end is simply a different point of view.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50390 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:46 am to
That's a progressive agenda, BTW.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:46 am to
Not sure about "liberal" or "gay" but the end game of the American Progressive movement is unlimited and unchecked federal power.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:22 am to
On it's face they mean well. In execution it pretty much turns into whatever they want will be forced on you through the gov't. It's a very elitist and narcissistic ideology no matter how much they try to convince you they're looking out for the little guy.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:30 am to
quote:

I hear that and the "liberal media" as well as "gay agenda" mentioned so much when republicans debate moral issues and I have to wonder if they really believe that someone with a different political view or sexual orientation have an endgame that is ultimately harmful to America.

It seems there is a lot of conspiracy as to what is "really going on" and what this or that group is trying to accomplish when all it amounts to in the end is simply a different point of view.


fify ... true conservatives aren't debating moral issues ...

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45820 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:39 am to
The believe in a glass ceiling, held up by government programs, to keep voters on the edge of poverty and voting for more in a block for liberal politicians...
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I hear that and the "liberal media" as well as "gay agenda" mentioned so much when conservatives debate moral issues and I have to wonder if they really believe that someone with a different political view or sexual orientation have an endgame that is ultimately harmful to America.



The liberal progressive agenda/goal is control through expansion of government. The endgame is basically a nanny state disguised as progress in which elite "smart" liberal Democrats choose what is best for you because you are obviously too stupid to make the politically correct choices.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:43 am to
Of course, there are "extremes" on each 'side'. So, I will ignore those.

To me, the chief difference is to what degree one wants a homogenized American experience.

The "liberals" (as constituted by the 'left' in the body politic, today) tend to want MORE of a centralized, Federal Gov control / determination of how things must be. It creates a more homogeneous experience. Each group, state, etc is given an edict on how 'things should be'.

The problem is that creates a HUGE bureaucratic monster that is difficult to administer AND virtually eliminates competition of ideas between States. One state is not free to try a different approach to problem solving and letting citizens vote by moving. Understanding that it creates difficulty on SOME citizens for whom "moving" is more difficult.


IMO, the "left" sees that there are needs for safeguards to keep some 'elites' from taking advantage of others by misbehavior and fraud, etc. The Gov is needed to more even the playing field and to make sure that some business owner or local bigwig isn't as easily able to harm or steal from the citizenry.

My belief is it simply switches the location of the 'elite' that is causing harm from the local to the federal level. And, the inefficiencies cause more harm than good.


For all the trolling as assholerry that Rex, et al, post on here....there would be very little difference in the way the nation exists were his views to be in "control".

I think the biggest decline would be in the lack of competition between states (noted above). But,that is simply opinion and the entire basis of of form of government. And, in fact, the opposing "side" point of view provides the very competition of ideas that I think is so healthy. Thus, aside from the extremes, I think it is a net good that we have BOTH views being expressed and competing.

I am conservative (Libertarian)..but, do not see liberalism as an enemy.

ETA: I think dishonest, disingenuous "side supporting" is the enemy. BOTH 'sides' have plenty of that. We would be better off with fewer hacks that simply let "my side" get away with it based upon previous "other side" behavior.



This post was edited on 6/22/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:24 am to
The liberal agenda is driven by the value system of Egalitarianism. Life is not fair and only the fiat power of centralized govt can make it fair. This is why liberal rhetoric has a lot of class warfare, social justice, equality, etc.

The gay agenda can be seen in 3 goals... legality, tolerance, normal.
The legality of being gay was achieved a long time ago. Tolerance has been achieved during our lifetime. The next goal is for homosexuality to be viewed by the public as perfectly normal. That's going to be difficult because of biology.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14891 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 10:53 am to
I hope the people that want massive regulations, forced unionization, expansive entitlement programs, massive taxes on job creators, artificial minimum wages, a government powerful enough to know all our secrets, support a president that doesn't execute the law, but seeks to unilaterally make the law have some underlying agenda wherein the end justifies the means.

Otherwise they are just butt stupid.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57429 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:01 am to
Bring about Socialism as a vehicle for Communism.

/thread
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34993 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:22 am to
Social *justice*. Top to bottom.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Can someone tell me what the "liberal agenda" is?



The destruction of America.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99109 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 2:08 pm to
See:

Das Kapital
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45195 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 2:50 pm to
The liberal agenda is control of the American voting public.

The motto: You are to stupid to run your own life so we must run it for you.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 3:37 pm to
Anything that is opposite of what America originaly stood for is the liberal agenda./ thread

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58172 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 6:05 pm to
" To free each citizen from job-lock so they can write more poetry!"
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