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Apt Complex Requires Tenant To Remove US Flag - "Threat to Muslim Community"
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:08 am
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A Webster man says his apartment complex manager told him his American flag was a “threat to the Muslim community,” and that he has to take it down. But he’s not giving up without a fight.
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We tried to ask a manager if that's exactly what was said, but she just handed us a statement, refused to answer any questions, and called an officer to escort us off the property, before we could press any further
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We have not heard of any residents complaining about any flags at the complex, or any of the patriotic items we saw. In fact, we spoke to several neighbors who say they want Tran's flag to stay.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am to imjustafatkid
Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am to imjustafatkid
there are some posters on this board that would want him to take it down as well
shitty people are shitty
ETA: one post too late
shitty people are shitty
ETA: one post too late
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:16 am to imjustafatkid
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American flag was a “threat to the Muslim community,”
There is a dispute involving his flying of the flag in an apt complex, but I don't believe the above was given to him as a reason. I think he's trying to get media attention.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:21 am to imjustafatkid
We understand that the recent events surrounding the display of the United States Flag on the balcony railing has caused a great deal of consternation. We regret that the policies, consistent with the hotel and apartment industry, have created an incorrect perception that we are not supportive of patriotism.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:24 am to imjustafatkid
I'm confused to the reasoning here why our country's flag would be seen as a threat to a Muslim living here.
Are they terrorists and would have something to fear from the United States government?
Has not the United States government operating under that flag given them refuge?
BIGGER QUESTION....
Should WE feel threatened with a person who feels threatened by our very flag? Should that concern me most of all?
Are they terrorists and would have something to fear from the United States government?
Has not the United States government operating under that flag given them refuge?
BIGGER QUESTION....
Should WE feel threatened with a person who feels threatened by our very flag? Should that concern me most of all?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:28 am to imjustafatkid
Even though I think it's a crappy decision by the manager of the apartment complex, it should be within his rights to make such decisions as the owner of said complex. The same should have held true for the Colorado bakers and the Arizona photographer.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:29 am to imjustafatkid
What a stupid thing to get upset about. I couldn't mount a satellite dish to my balcony when I was renting in college and I didn't cry to the media about it.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:34 am to imjustafatkid
If the lease has any sort of restrictions on this display, then the landlord has every right to allow this...even if his/her reasons are complete bullshite.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am to imjustafatkid
It all goes back to the language in the lease. If in the lease, the manager has the right to demand he take down the flag, then the manager has every right to do so. If not, then the tenant has every right to display the flag. Since I do not know the details, for hypothetical's sake, I'm going to assume that the manager has this right. While, I know he is allowed to, I don't think he should. I would not want a law to prevent the business owner from having such a policy.
Aka the "just because I don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned" policy. Freedom means people having the freedom to do things that I abhor and detest while I have the freedom to do the same.
Aka the "just because I don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned" policy. Freedom means people having the freedom to do things that I abhor and detest while I have the freedom to do the same.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:24 am to imjustafatkid
Tran jumps to the "appease the Muslims" argument/whining. I wonder which Poli Board poster is Tran. 
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:09 am to imjustafatkid
If it ain't in the contract, why the hell shouldn't he be able to?
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:29 pm to imjustafatkid
Poor reporting job by Alice Barr.
She writes that he moved in "just a few days ago". If I'm a reporter, realizing how this story will be received by the viewers/readers, the first thing I'm asking him is to look at his copy of the lease. It's not like he could say he doesn't know where it is, since he just moved in, and one would think that he would have already checked the lease before agreeing to the interview. If the reporter did ask to see it, and he told her he didn't have a copy or couldn't find it, she should have stated that in her report. If he did have a copy, one would expect the reporter to comment on whether the flag display is specifically prohibited. And if it is, then she should have asked other tenants with patriotic items on display if anyone has ever said anything to them about their displayed items. Also, since Flag Day was just a few days earlier, were the other displays seen in the video clip leftover from that?
Just basic things one would expect a good reporter to mention in filing a report she knew would create controversy.
(For the the record, I have had a small 11'x16" American flag on my condo's front door since 9/11/01, so my feelings on displaying the flag have nothing to do with questioning the reporter's omission of very significant information.)
She writes that he moved in "just a few days ago". If I'm a reporter, realizing how this story will be received by the viewers/readers, the first thing I'm asking him is to look at his copy of the lease. It's not like he could say he doesn't know where it is, since he just moved in, and one would think that he would have already checked the lease before agreeing to the interview. If the reporter did ask to see it, and he told her he didn't have a copy or couldn't find it, she should have stated that in her report. If he did have a copy, one would expect the reporter to comment on whether the flag display is specifically prohibited. And if it is, then she should have asked other tenants with patriotic items on display if anyone has ever said anything to them about their displayed items. Also, since Flag Day was just a few days earlier, were the other displays seen in the video clip leftover from that?
Just basic things one would expect a good reporter to mention in filing a report she knew would create controversy.
(For the the record, I have had a small 11'x16" American flag on my condo's front door since 9/11/01, so my feelings on displaying the flag have nothing to do with questioning the reporter's omission of very significant information.)
Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:50 pm to imjustafatkid
If there's anything I've learned from threads like these, it's that there's one side to every story.
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