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re: Iraq in downward spiral; Who will Obama blame?
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:18 pm to islandtiger
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:18 pm to islandtiger
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I really wonder if anyone involved in starting/continuing that war expected any outcome other than what we seem to be witnessing. Fareed Zakaria predicted as much in 2003 in his book Future of Freedom. I cannot imagine the pain that families and friends of lost soldiers must be going through when they think about the lives lost for no apparent gain.
Yes, it could have been/still can be a different outcome. I mentioned major inflection points earlier. Here are a few:
1. Not enacting some of the disastrous decisions of the Coalition Provisional Authority - disbanding the Army and de-Baathification being the most critical
2. Not moving to clear/hold/build earlier in the war
3. Maliki isolating a great many of the western and northern Sunni tribes by not integrating the Sahwa into district police and the federal army
4. Maliki winning the 2010 election at all - an Allawi victory would have set the foundation for a more conciliatory Sunni sect
5. (maybe most importantly at this juncture) the Syrian civil war
Unless you believe history is preordained and humans aren't independent actors, then there a lot of different ways this could have played out.
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:29 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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AbuTheMonkey
You are clearly more knowledgeable about this issue than me (and most other PT posters). I hope you are right and there is still a chance for success and that there are some leaders willing to make tough choices...the people of Iraq and our vets deserve it.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 8:04 pm
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