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re: Anti-Fracking Hysteria Hits St. Tammany Parish
Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:58 am to lsuroadie
Posted on 6/11/14 at 10:58 am to lsuroadie
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the anti fracking movement is akin to the US staging the moon landing movement.
people don't want to educate themselves, they want to listen to left wing environmental loons
Jury awards family $3 million in fracking lawsuit
In Texas, of all places.
Scientists: fracking responsible for flaming drinking water in Parker County
More illegally dumped radioactive fracking waste in North Dakota
Fracking found to have contaminated groundwater in Alberta
I'm not for shutting fracking down, but don't kid yourself that it's completely benign.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/11/14 at 11:51 am to Jim Rockford
Nobody wants to comment on the links I provided?
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:02 pm to Jim Rockford
for every link you post bemoaning the big bad fracking monster....I can post a hundred links to SCIENTIFIC studies saying exactly the opposite. hell, we could play that game all day.
as far as energy companies dumping waste, it has NOTHING to do with this discussion. 100% irrelevant to fracking a well. if they were found to illegally dump any form of waste, whether its hydrocarbons, frack fluid, or contaminated mud...they should be held to the highest extent of the law. heck, your fed govt has been illegally dumping nuclear pollution for 30 yrs and now you have a conscience?
out of the thousands....tens of thousands of wells that are fracked each year...one or two MIGHT....MIGHT leak methane into a drinking reservoir? hell, it's not like we're fracking a field of roses...it's fricking hydrocarbons!!!! for pete's sake....it's been down there for 10mm years adjacent to their freaking drinking water and now people worry that it might come in contact with their drinking water...HELLO, Mcfly.
it's a ridiculous argument, if that's the case let's shut down all forms of energy production and let people pay $10 a gal for gas then they'll be begging us to frack.
fracking is no more than pressuring up a hydrocarbon zone with soaps, gels and proppant...and yes every once in a while acids. if people think it can transmit from 2 miles below the earth into their drinking water at 25 foot...well, tell 'em to stick a fricking tap on their faucet and harvest all the oil and methane. tell 'em to watch out for the H2S stuff.
as far as energy companies dumping waste, it has NOTHING to do with this discussion. 100% irrelevant to fracking a well. if they were found to illegally dump any form of waste, whether its hydrocarbons, frack fluid, or contaminated mud...they should be held to the highest extent of the law. heck, your fed govt has been illegally dumping nuclear pollution for 30 yrs and now you have a conscience?
out of the thousands....tens of thousands of wells that are fracked each year...one or two MIGHT....MIGHT leak methane into a drinking reservoir? hell, it's not like we're fracking a field of roses...it's fricking hydrocarbons!!!! for pete's sake....it's been down there for 10mm years adjacent to their freaking drinking water and now people worry that it might come in contact with their drinking water...HELLO, Mcfly.
it's a ridiculous argument, if that's the case let's shut down all forms of energy production and let people pay $10 a gal for gas then they'll be begging us to frack.
fracking is no more than pressuring up a hydrocarbon zone with soaps, gels and proppant...and yes every once in a while acids. if people think it can transmit from 2 miles below the earth into their drinking water at 25 foot...well, tell 'em to stick a fricking tap on their faucet and harvest all the oil and methane. tell 'em to watch out for the H2S stuff.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:53 pm to Jim Rockford
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Jim Rockford
Agreed, but those things happen when any type of drilling is done incorrectly or with bad geological information.
And some of those issues have nothing to do with the drilling......illegal dumping is illegal dumping, not a fracking issue.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:51 pm to Jim Rockford
The problem with the articles is that these issues are more about negligence and not about the actual technology.
As a person who supports the technology I am completely fine with more regulation on poor industry practices. The problem with the anti-frac'ing movement in St. Tammany and elsewhere is how uneducated these people are regarding the industry. There are plenty of resources available for the foundation of the technology that has been around for a very long time. The people in an uproar in St. Tammany are complaining about the wrong things and they aren't knowledgeable enough about the operations to target their issue on legit concerns.
In your articles they are referencing environmental spills, most likely poor cementing operations, and poor waste management. All of these things are not direct issues with frac'ing and more a issue with the people doing it or other operations.
As a person who supports the technology I am completely fine with more regulation on poor industry practices. The problem with the anti-frac'ing movement in St. Tammany and elsewhere is how uneducated these people are regarding the industry. There are plenty of resources available for the foundation of the technology that has been around for a very long time. The people in an uproar in St. Tammany are complaining about the wrong things and they aren't knowledgeable enough about the operations to target their issue on legit concerns.
In your articles they are referencing environmental spills, most likely poor cementing operations, and poor waste management. All of these things are not direct issues with frac'ing and more a issue with the people doing it or other operations.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 6/12/14 at 12:51 am to Jim Rockford
Bunk.
LINK
Chu is a Nobel prize-winning physicist and the same guy who said the goal was to raise gas prices to those of Europe. I'm pretty sure he's no friend of the gas/oil industry. Moniz is a very highly regarded physicist as well.
quote:
Two former high-profile members of President Obama's cabinet are reassuring the public that hydraulic fracturing —fracking — is a safe technology for extracting oil and natural gas.
"This is something you can do in a safe way,” former Secretary of Energy Steven Chu said while speaking in Columbus, Ohio, on Sept. 18. He also said that it was a “false choice” to say that the country can either preserve the environment or acquire cheap natural gas.
More than 1,000 miles away, former Interior Secretary Ken Salazar was singing the same tune.
“I would say to everybody that hydraulic fracking is safe,” Salazar said during a conference in Las Cruces, N.M. He said that fracking was “creating an energy revolution in the United States.”
Chu and Salazar joined current Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz, who in early September praised fracking as “a big contributor to our carbon reduction” and “a huge economic benefit.”
LINK
Chu is a Nobel prize-winning physicist and the same guy who said the goal was to raise gas prices to those of Europe. I'm pretty sure he's no friend of the gas/oil industry. Moniz is a very highly regarded physicist as well.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 12:52 am
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