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Have you noticed how the left and Obama ram trough unpopular policies?

Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:38 am
Obamacare. Mostly unpopular but Obama and his minions carry on.

Amnesty. I posted a poll yesterday and amnesty only gets 34% support from HISPANICS. It's hugely unpopular but Obama (with the help of Chamber of Commerce Republicans) carry on.

Gay Marriage. Has gay marriage ever got popular support from any state? So it takes progressive judges to carve out a path to gay marriage despite the will of the people.

Climate Change. Despite failing to pass carbon credits Obama is doing a run-around congress to regulate the coal industry into extinction.

Then we have the Bergdahl situation where he spikes the football in the Rose Garden seemingly to tweak the military and congress (by breaking the law).

Can the left though Obama or Obama himself bring himself to do anything that a majority of Americans agree upon so he doesn't have to be so conniving to get his initiatives through?

Maybe he's doing things that Americans agree on, but he's just not talking about them. If so, you would think Obama would toot his horn a little to get his poll numbers up.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20796 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:53 am to
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Can the left though Obama or Obama himself bring himself to do anything that a majority of Americans agree upon so he doesn't have to be so conniving to get his initiatives through?


Politicians are scared to death to work with the other side on bold issues because they don't want to be branded as "catering to the other side" by their bases. It sickens me how Presidents act that just because they win an election, that just means they have a mandate. Its as if they just dismiss the 40+% of the population that didn't vote for them.

I'm not a show me a birth certificate and tell the truth about Benghazi Obama hater. I just think he's failed as leader. He's made no effort to transcend being the leader of his party when he had the opportunity to win goodwill from his opponents. For instance, when he "evolved" on Gay Marraige, he could've been a bridge to both sides. Instead, he just used the issue as a wedge. When the BP Oil Spill happened, he vacationed in Martha's Vineyard instead of the Gulf...which would've really helped the economy down there in a number of ways.

Obama never lived up to being that tranformational figure. He's no different than any other politician....and that's what the Republicans failed to emphasize about him in the 2012 election.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:58 am to
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Gay Marriage. Has gay marriage ever got popular support from any state?


Yes. Same sex marriage was passed by popular vote in Maryland, Washington, and Maine.

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So it takes progressive judges to carve out a path to gay marriage despite the will of the people.


If I'm not mistaken most of the judges that have overturned same sex marriage bans were not appointed by Obama or the "left".
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48461 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:01 am to
Obama other Leftists are most comfy with authoritarian methods of governance.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:10 am to
One can put all the blame on Obama for doing things unilaterally, but doing so ignores the united and absolute opposition he faces from republicans on nearly everything, and the role partisan politics plays in shaping public opinion.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112584 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:32 am to
It's perfectly in keeping with their motto:

'By any means necessary.'
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9500 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:33 am to
And when the Republicans get a chance they make sure not to ruffle any feathers so they give in the the Democrats. While the Dems take the torch and sprint to the left. We need someone to take the torch back to the right!
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:02 pm to
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So it takes progressive judges to carve out a path to gay marriage despite the will of the people.


Instead of being a sound bite the tea party, why don't you say why you think these judges are wrong? We've decided rightly or wrongly that the constitution > the will of the people unless the will of the people amend the constitution.

Until then, as the judges have ruled, there is no legitimate government interest in limiting certain people the right and benefits of marriage.

Plus i believe same-sex marriage has more support than not in this country now. over 50%

but yes. same-sex marriage is unpopular

then 70% think gov't should limit emissions from existing power plants
59% say climate change is a very serious problem
63% would pay a higher electric bill to limit greenhouse gases.
Fed gov't should require states to limit greenhouse gases

on Amnesty, it might not be popular but maybe, like Reagan, he thinks he has little choice and in the end, will be better. Plus it is not that unpopular, as polls indicate, if you couple it with tighter boarder control. Hispanic support is up to around 60% i believe if you put the two together
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