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re: Can we talk about "Rape Culture?"
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:38 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:38 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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In the US?
yes.
I will give you the example - "candy is dandy but liquor is quicker." If you are giving a female enough alcohol so that her capacity is diminished to the point she cannot consent, you are raping her. Woman can also rape men by doing the same thing.
But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:40 pm to Hawkeye95
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If you are giving a female enough alcohol so that her capacity is diminished to the point she cannot consent, you are raping her.
Yes. You are correct. Are all people legally intoxicated incapable of consenting to sex?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:41 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Are you forcing the alcohol down her throat?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:44 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Meh. I'll buy that this if the girl would not have had sex without the alcohol.
If a girl is going into the night looking to get laid, gets drunk, and gets the dick that she's decided she wanted before getting drunk, I don't consider that rape.
I'd say the my scenario is much more commonplace than the "girl had sex ONLY because a guy liquored her up"
ETA: and as others have pointed out, just because this does happen, does not mean we live in a culture of rape.
This post was edited on 6/9/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:48 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Well, sometimes . . . .
Woman can also rape men by doing the same thing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:49 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
To me, this is hazy and a hell of a bait-and-switch for an otherwise unsuspecting and innocent college guy.
If a girl goes out with the intention of hooking up and having sex, does her consumption of alcohol now make engaging in such an act a perpetration of rape by the male?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:51 pm to Hawkeye95
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If you are giving a female enough alcohol so that her capacity is diminished to the point she cannot consent, you are raping her.
Well, tell her to stop using that vagina to be "given" alcohol and problem solved?
If SHE simply purchases the alcohol and gets "raped", then no more 'rape culture'...right?
Because, you seem to imply that it is the "giving a female" alcohol that is the issue. Not, the simple act of RAPE.
Thus, IF she uses her money or her vagina to "purchase" the alcohol...the "rape culture" is null and void.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Those poor, pitiful, helpless women.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:20 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 2:21 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the concept of getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her is common place, and this is rape.
Is it sexist to believe she can't be trusted to monitor her own consumption and be held accountable for her actions?
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