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re: Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, Only US Solider Held Captive in Afghanistan Released
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:38 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:38 am to GeauxxxTigers23
His Dad:
Taken from a FB page:
I read this earlier today. Supposedly written by a fellow soldier who was there ------> We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday
Bowe Bergdahl is no "hero". Here are the facts: In the weeks leading up to his "capture", Bergdahl made statements that he was "ashamed to be an American" and "The horror that is america is disgusting." He shipped his personal belongings home. He asked his Squad Leader what would happen if he took someone else's weapon and other sensitive items off base.
On the day of his departure, he was drinking with the Afghans he had befriended. After being caught, he was verbally reprimanded. That evening, angry after being reprimanded, he left behind his weapons, took a knife (by some statements up to five knives), some bottled water, and hid in the back of a vehicle owned by one of the local laborers. Bergdahl and at least two Afghans then drove off base to go smoke hashish, according to multiple statements. After smoking hashish, Bergdahl then walked off into the countryside. By some accounts, he set off to go "find himself" in the mountains. By other accounts, his plan was to walk to Pakistan.
He was discovered missing the next morning at about 0900. By 1200 that day, the entire war in Afghanistan had ground to a halt as all available air assets in Afghanistan were diverted to search for Bergdahl.
In the end assessment, the acts of this "soldier" cost the lives of other Americans (ones that didn't leave their posts in combat), and cost us hundreds of millions of dollars due to his selfish, dishonorable acts. He is a deserter, EVERYBODY in the Chain of Command knows it, and the fact that the US Government continues to pay and promote him shows the lengths they will go to manipulate public opinion.
frick that guy
Taken from a FB page:
I read this earlier today. Supposedly written by a fellow soldier who was there ------> We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday
Bowe Bergdahl is no "hero". Here are the facts: In the weeks leading up to his "capture", Bergdahl made statements that he was "ashamed to be an American" and "The horror that is america is disgusting." He shipped his personal belongings home. He asked his Squad Leader what would happen if he took someone else's weapon and other sensitive items off base.
On the day of his departure, he was drinking with the Afghans he had befriended. After being caught, he was verbally reprimanded. That evening, angry after being reprimanded, he left behind his weapons, took a knife (by some statements up to five knives), some bottled water, and hid in the back of a vehicle owned by one of the local laborers. Bergdahl and at least two Afghans then drove off base to go smoke hashish, according to multiple statements. After smoking hashish, Bergdahl then walked off into the countryside. By some accounts, he set off to go "find himself" in the mountains. By other accounts, his plan was to walk to Pakistan.
He was discovered missing the next morning at about 0900. By 1200 that day, the entire war in Afghanistan had ground to a halt as all available air assets in Afghanistan were diverted to search for Bergdahl.
In the end assessment, the acts of this "soldier" cost the lives of other Americans (ones that didn't leave their posts in combat), and cost us hundreds of millions of dollars due to his selfish, dishonorable acts. He is a deserter, EVERYBODY in the Chain of Command knows it, and the fact that the US Government continues to pay and promote him shows the lengths they will go to manipulate public opinion.
frick that guy
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:14 am to Signal Soldier
This idiot better get court martialed.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:37 am to Signal Soldier
quote:
In the end assessment, the acts of this "soldier" cost the lives of other Americans (ones that didn't leave their posts in combat), and cost us hundreds of millions of dollars due to his selfish, dishonorable acts. He is a deserter, EVERYBODY in the Chain of Command knows it, and the fact that the US Government continues to pay and promote him shows the lengths they will go to manipulate public opinion.
While reading this, this sticks out.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:03 am to 2close2Gainesville
quote:
While reading this, this sticks out.
Thats SOP
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:10 am to StraightCashHomey21
Ya, it's not very comforting, though.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:37 am to 2close2Gainesville
Yea but that is misleading with that part, thats not done to manipulate anyone.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 5:41 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:30 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Is there any reason we couldn't find this guy and go in and get him?
We tried a few times, lost some good Tier One (JSOC) guys in the process, among others.
Read The Command by Mark Ambinder, part of it details his "capture" and some of the attempts we made to get him back.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 8:37 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:32 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
Hopefully we chipped them and track where they go and maybe they'll be hanging around when a drone flies by...
My thoughts exactly. They'll stay in Qatar for a little while and as soon as they wind up back in Waziristan, we'll drop the hammer.
I don't really care for the Obama administration but his history when it comes to intelligence and national security has been, for lack of a better term, stellar. I really don't think they'd trade guys like that for this dipshit without there being an element to it that the general public is unaware of. We're seeing the front cover of an encyclopedia-sized book.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:43 am to Corkfather
quote:
I don't really care for the Obama administration but his history when it comes to intelligence and national security has been, for lack of a better term, stellar.
could not have said it better
dude is trigger happy as frick and gives the green light
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
My roommate was pretty close to the situation. He fricking hates Bowe Bergdahl. A lot of his friends died because of him.
I really hope he's not treated like a hero.
I really hope he's not treated like a hero.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:54 am to hendersonshands
He left his post, and the timeline of him joining the Army then leaving is fishy as frick like it was all planned. It shows a lack of discipline the whole point of getting the shite detail when not deployed while being jr enlisted forces you to deal with it b/c eventually dealing with it will have a much more serious outcome.
I'm tempted to post my thoughts about this on fb but I really don't feel like dealing with the hate ill get from non military people.
I'm tempted to post my thoughts about this on fb but I really don't feel like dealing with the hate ill get from non military people.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
dude is trigger happy as frick and gives the green light
The best move he ever made was allowing Panetta to make the tough calls when it came to drone strikes in Pakistan and giving him the freedom to do his thing, as both CIA Director and Secretary of Defense, no questions asked. We gained so much valuable intelligence during his tenure and dealt so many serious blows to jihadist leadership, especially in 2012 (both Mehsuds, al-Libi, etc.), that it literally changed the course of history.
When Panetta said he needed more drones, he got them and wasn't afraid to use them.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:00 am to GEAUXmedic
WELL THIS thread has been enlightening. Thx.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:01 am to GEAUXmedic
Careful.. We might have a "homeland" on our hands...
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:01 am to StraightCashHomey21
My buddy has been going nuts on Facebook, he's not really concerned with what nonmilitary thinks I guess
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:03 am to hendersonshands
I just dont even feel like telling people off that and I'm drinking today.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:05 am to Corkfather
Wtf is that tweet all about? Thats this soldiers father?
Im moving to Spain
Im moving to Spain
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:08 am to StraightCashHomey21
You think he was giving up intel? Apparently they figured out a lot of shite they couldn't figure out before he went missing. I don't want to give up too much of what I was told but he really sounds like a piece of shite.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 9:10 am to hendersonshands
quote:
You think he was giving up intel?
I doubt it, he was a jr enlisted grunt with no real specialized training. He probably told them tactics and how routine checks are done, which the enemy already knows b/c they run counter intel on us.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 9:11 am
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