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re: $60M Allen football stadium deemed 'not safe,' will close this season

Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:26 am to
sounds like design flaws more so than construction related issues... and 3rd party testing labs are hired by the Owner, independent of design/construction teams.

You could xray the slab on just about any building in america and find 1" discrepencies in rebar placement... that kinda stuff shouldn't be blamed for this level of failure... this is almost all on the design team, specifically the structural engineer.... who was hired by the arch... who was then hired by the owner... you get what you pay for.
This post was edited on 5/20/14 at 10:27 am
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8438 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:32 am to
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lowspark12
You are correct, sir. The testing lab will only test things like the compressive strength of the concrete, the placement of the steel, etc., to ensure conformance with the plans and specifications. If there were errors in the design documents, that is not the fault of the testing lab.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 10:33 am to
If it's a lump sum contract, the contractor is required to have a 3rd party testing firm. The owner will usually have a 4th party, if they don't have qualified personal to oversee the project. Rebar inspection, etc is on the contractor. Cylinder testing is on the contractor. These guys seem like amateurs. But the district should've had someone looking out for their interest on such a large project, too.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37278 posts
Posted on 5/20/14 at 12:21 pm to
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and 3rd party testing labs are hired by the Owner, independent of design/construction teams.


The majority of the jobs I bid on the independent testing agency is hired and paid for by the GC.
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