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re: AGW Deniers - Seems Kind of Hopeless
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:26 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:26 pm to Taxing Authority
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Few actaully write modeling software. I cannot believe you are one of them from your posts.
You dont have to write modeling software to understand what a big arse system of equations is.
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It's exactly what you're saying. Your saying modeling state inputs are wrong--but somehow excluding CO2 as being on of the incorrect ones.
I didn't state that explicitly, I argued that the model being wrong didnt NECESSARILY prove that carbon isn't a contributing driver. The difference there is quite significant.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:31 pm to AUbused
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I argued that the model being wrong didnt NECESSARILY prove that carbon isn't a contributing driver. The difference there is quite significant.
But here is where you keep shifting the argument. The models were developed that the MAIN driver is CO2. I'll even agree that if other model relationships, particularly boundary conditions, arent handled properly it may alter the proposed effect of even their primary variable.
However, we are talking about ALL of the models. ALL OF THEM. All of them so bad that reality has fallen out of the 95% CI.
Listen, nobody doubts that CO2 has some effect on climate, but the reality is that it is nowhere near as strong as the acolytes would like it to be for their doomsday scare tactics. It is a minor contributor at current concentrations.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:32 pm to AUbused
quote:It would help if you had a clue what a state variable, causality, and which way heat flows.
You dont have to write modeling software to understand what a big arse system of equations is.
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I didn't state that explicitly, I argued that the model being wrong didnt NECESSARILY prove that carbon isn't a contributing driver. The difference there is quite significant.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:37 pm to AUbused
Maybe you just missed my questions on the previous page. So, I'll ask them again here;
Testing hypotheses are a necessary part of science, agree? Global warming advocates' hypotheses are that CO2 creates global warming and has been for decades now, correct? So, can you point me to forecasts based on these hypotheses that have turned out to be correct?
One final question, you would agree that science depends on hypotheses being tested over and over and coming up w/ the same answers time after time, correct?
Testing hypotheses are a necessary part of science, agree? Global warming advocates' hypotheses are that CO2 creates global warming and has been for decades now, correct? So, can you point me to forecasts based on these hypotheses that have turned out to be correct?
One final question, you would agree that science depends on hypotheses being tested over and over and coming up w/ the same answers time after time, correct?
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