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re: A look back at the 49ers trade of Alex smith

Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:51 pm to
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traditional QB rating is much, much better


We will just have to disagree. I work with statistics / data analytics on a daily basis, and the nerd in me and my co-workers have enjoyed breaking down the QBR.

Traditional QB rating system is too easily inflated by short passes, YAC, it doesn't consider the down/distance, the score, or point in time of the play as it relates to the game.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:58 pm to
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it doesn't consider the down/distance, the score, or point in time of the play as it relates to the game.

this is the opposite of "impartial", just fwiw. adjusting scoring based on subjective variables is quite partial
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 5:26 pm to
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QBR



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The QBR does a great job of analyzing impact of performance under various conditions.


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We will just have to disagree. I work with statistics / data analytics on a daily basis, and the nerd in me and my co-workers have enjoyed breaking down the QBR.








Since you are a stat nerd that likes to break this joke of a rating down, explain a few of these to me:



Earlier this season, Thaddeus Lewis had a game against the Bengals where he went 19 of 32, for 216 yards, 2 TDs, (both of which were in the 4th quarter and forced OT), and had 0 INTs.

Those stats are good enough for a traditional passer rating rating of 100.5. And that doesn't take into account his 17 yards of total rushing and another TD on the ground.

But ESPN's shite-tarded stat gave him a QBR of 16.2.



And then a couple of years ago, this shite happened:

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ESPN’s QBR stat puts Tebow ahead of Rodgers

I’ll unignore the Total QBR long enough to point out that I have found justification for ignoring it: Under the Total QBR, Tim Tebow performed better on Sunday than Aaron Rodgers.

Rodgers, whose Packers won at the Georgia Dome, completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns. His Total QBR was 82.1.

Tebow, whose Broncos lost at home to the Chargers, completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown. And he ran the ball six times for 38 yards and a touchdown. And his Total QBR was 83.2.





And lets not forget that the highest rated QBR game by a NFL QB belongs to Charlie Batch, for this game right here:


LINK


12 of 17, 186 yards, 3 TDs, (not a single one in the 2nd half) and 2 INTs

5 Rushes, 26 Yards, and 0 TDs
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