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re: Game of Thrones S4:E6:"The Laws of Gods and Men", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:18 am to BOSCEAUX
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:18 am to BOSCEAUX
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Kind of pissed Yara gave up so easily.
Yeah, after that badass speech/entrance it was a bit of a letdown.
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I hope Littlefinger dumps Lysa out the moon door while she's threatening Sansa.
Yeah, I could definitely see this happening.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:23 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Lysa is definitely toast. Littlefinger saying "Given the opportunity, what do we do to those who hurt the ones we love?" tells me he's gonna frick her world up for trying to hurt Sansa.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:26 am to UMRealist
they are clearly keeping Theon/Reek around for a reason, and Ramsay said he wants him to play the role of Theon Greyjoy. I'm guessing he's going to do just that in the future
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:36 am to Billy Mays
He has said that he wanted the dorns to join him to help with dany's army. How much truth to that? Idk.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:42 am to wrc12
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they are clearly keeping Theon/Reek around for a reason, and Ramsay said he wants him to play the role of Theon Greyjoy. I'm guessing he's going to do just that in the future
I said earlier that he will be sent to the Pyke as a mole but now that I think about it, that theory is retarded. Yara would see right through it after what she saw of him in the cage.
So I have no idea where his story is going
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:43 am to wrc12
Solid episode last night. I don't like when we don't see certain stories for weeks at a time, but I honestly am digging the last two or three episodes that have been a bit more focused on just several plots.
I fricking love me some Davos. He's a loyal arse dude to Stannis, and I hope one day Stannis rewards him for his loyalty if he can ever drop Melissandre like a bad habit.
That Theon shite better go somewhere soon. If this whole time has been building up to him simply being Reek and being a plaything of Ramsay, I'm gonna be pissed. And good job, Yara...you've been sailing to the Dreadfort for almost a season now and you give this huge speech and try to get your brother for all of five minutes. I realize that he was resistant, but don't you maybe think that he was fricked in the head due to the abuse and torture? What a wasted trip, and a lot of buildup for nothing.
Dragon scene was badass.
I am starting to hate every word that comes out of Dany's mouth. Not only is it boring, but I'm literally starting to dislike how she is acting the part, and I don't like that I am. But I don't need to see her sitting around ruling over people...that's boring as frick.
At the small council meeting, they were talking about Dany and Tywin says "She must be dealt with," or something like that, so I assume he may make a play to have her merked soon. I wouldn't hate that to be honest (though I think she and her dragons are important to the series).
Varys is asexual and not homosexual..nice. And dude has his eyes on the prize as well (the iron throne) and seems to be playing the long con similar to Littlefinger. I also can't help but wonder if he has some inclination about LF's involvement in Joffrey's murder, as he has "birds" all over the place (including the Vale I'd imagine).
Tyrion's trial was awesome...very interesting TV. I was thinking that Tywin had the jury rigged so Tyrion would be found innocent, but so far he seems to want him dead or exiled. I wonder if his trial by combat will involve Oberyn and The Mountain...and where the frick is Bronn in all fo this? All we've seen him do is train Jaime a little.
And Shae?
COOOOOLD BLOOOOOODED.
I fricking love me some Davos. He's a loyal arse dude to Stannis, and I hope one day Stannis rewards him for his loyalty if he can ever drop Melissandre like a bad habit.
That Theon shite better go somewhere soon. If this whole time has been building up to him simply being Reek and being a plaything of Ramsay, I'm gonna be pissed. And good job, Yara...you've been sailing to the Dreadfort for almost a season now and you give this huge speech and try to get your brother for all of five minutes. I realize that he was resistant, but don't you maybe think that he was fricked in the head due to the abuse and torture? What a wasted trip, and a lot of buildup for nothing.
Dragon scene was badass.
I am starting to hate every word that comes out of Dany's mouth. Not only is it boring, but I'm literally starting to dislike how she is acting the part, and I don't like that I am. But I don't need to see her sitting around ruling over people...that's boring as frick.
At the small council meeting, they were talking about Dany and Tywin says "She must be dealt with," or something like that, so I assume he may make a play to have her merked soon. I wouldn't hate that to be honest (though I think she and her dragons are important to the series).
Varys is asexual and not homosexual..nice. And dude has his eyes on the prize as well (the iron throne) and seems to be playing the long con similar to Littlefinger. I also can't help but wonder if he has some inclination about LF's involvement in Joffrey's murder, as he has "birds" all over the place (including the Vale I'd imagine).
Tyrion's trial was awesome...very interesting TV. I was thinking that Tywin had the jury rigged so Tyrion would be found innocent, but so far he seems to want him dead or exiled. I wonder if his trial by combat will involve Oberyn and The Mountain...and where the frick is Bronn in all fo this? All we've seen him do is train Jaime a little.
And Shae?
COOOOOLD BLOOOOOODED.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:44 am to wrc12
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they are clearly keeping Theon/Reek around for a reason, and Ramsay said he wants him to play the role of Theon Greyjoy. I'm guessing he's going to do just that in the future
That's what I am hoping...that Ramsay plays the wrong game with him and he finally has his moment of reckoning. But short of that, it's been a long and drawn out plot of nothing.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:50 am to CocomoLSU
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Varys is asexual and not homosexual..nice. And dude has his eyes on the prize as well (the iron throne) and seems to be playing the long con similar to Littlefinger. I also can't help but wonder if he has some inclination about LF's involvement in Joffrey's murder, as he has "birds" all over the place (including the Vale I'd imagine).
I think Varys long play is to stay close to the throne as long as possible, keeping an eye on everyone - his final play is, after shadowing LF all this time, to take him out at the last minute.
No one knows more about what is going on, everywhere, than Varys.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:52 am to Ace Midnight
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No one knows more about what is going on, everywhere, than Varys.
Exactly. Dude isn't high born or a lord or anything, but he's made his way into the king's small council. Pretty impressive. And let's not forget the power he has like when he tracked that wizard down who tortured him and had him shipped to K'sL so Varys could have his revenge. Dude is pretty boss at times. I'm just interested to see how his play for the throne plays out (assuming he makes one eventually).
Obviously he wouldn't have testified against Tyrion unless it benefitted himself somehow.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:56 am to CocomoLSU
I don't think Varys would have fricked over Tyrion like that unless he absolutely had to. Tyrion and Varys are both pretty decent guys by GOT standards.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:03 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
One big question I had during the episode was how they got to Shae. She was supposed to have gotten out of King's Landing on the hush hush.
Did Tywin/Cersei get to Bronn? Did they go to Pentos and find her?
Did Tywin/Cersei get to Bronn? Did they go to Pentos and find her?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:04 pm to CocomoLSU
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Obviously he wouldn't have testified against Tyrion unless it benefitted himself somehow.
Tyrion is the Ned Stark of the Lannister family.
Varys didn't say anything that was factually inaccurate. He probably, also, got wind of the deal between Tywin and Jamie to spare Tyrion's life. Tyrion deliberately queered that deal - at first, I thought he was trying to spare Shae - but she had already testified and the damage was done. Then, I realized, he's sparing Jamie from his deal with Tywin, without even knowing all the particulars.
But, like Ned - Tyrion is an all or nothing kind of guy - he should have been dead already - so, he figures, he's got nothing to lose (but Tywin and Cersei do.)
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:05 pm to Ace Midnight
I loved when tyrion told Jamie thats what Ned Stark was suppose to get
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:06 pm to 40 Rouge
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One big question I had during the episode was how they got to Shae. She was supposed to have gotten out of King's Landing on the hush hush.
Did Tywin/Cersei get to Bronn? Did they go to Pentos and find her?
That's why I want to know what Bronn is up to these days...he clearly told Tyrion that Shae was on the ship and sailing away. Did he just not see her and lie about it? Was he paid off by Tywin's people? Did he just straight up frick Tyrion over? I know Bronn was technically an employee of Tyrion, but they always seemed to have a bit of a genuine relationship though.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:08 pm to CocomoLSU
Yeah I wonder that as well
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:08 pm to Ace Midnight
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Tyrion is the Ned Stark of the Lannister family.
Nah, Tyrion has always been pretty clear that he values his head above all else.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:21 pm to 40 Rouge
I thought with Shae they probably told her that they would give her some money + she would get killed if she refused.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:22 pm to UMRealist
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Nah, Tyrion has always been pretty clear that he values his head above all else.
That's what he says - but he when the chips are down, he generally does the right thing, even if it is tough or life-threatening. If that weren't true, he wouldn't have screwed up Tywin and Jaime's deal to keep him alive.
Ironically, Ned did the wrong thing at the wrong time, ostensibly to protect his family and stay alive, and got killed for it anyway. So, Tyrion, in an apparent reversal of that is going to tell the truth, consequences be damned, and let the chips fall - a path that Ned and his oh-so-prized honor should have chosen.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:24 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Does Oberyn know 100% that the Mountain killed his sister? Or is that just a strong suspicion?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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That's what he says - but he when the chips are down, he generally does the right thing, even if it is tough or life-threatening. If that weren't true, he wouldn't have screwed up Tywin and Jaime's deal to keep him alive.
That didn't have anything to do with his morals or honor though. That was a reaction based in pure hatred/loathing/outrage.
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