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re: Where has the Voucher System been effective exactly?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:29 am to CarrolltonTiger
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:29 am to CarrolltonTiger
quote:Such a sad POV.
Schools are effective or ineffective based upon the students they get. Changing the administration doesn't do anything more to change the cognitive capacity or incentive of the student body than more pay for teachers, air conditioning, new books, new curriculum, etc.
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:14 am to NC_Tigah
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Such a sad POV.
Why? You think an 85 IQ student is going to become a scholar if Socrates and Einstein tutor him?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:40 pm to NC_Tigah
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Schools are effective or ineffective based upon the students they get. Changing the administration doesn't do anything more to change the cognitive capacity or incentive of the student body than more pay for teachers, air conditioning, new books, new curriculum, etc.
Such a sad POV.
If you had a skill such as plumbing that you wanted to teach me but I came to your class and basically didn't cause much trouble but didn't really pay attention. You called my parents and they basically said they'd see what they could do at home (which was their way of saying we won't do much if anything).
No matter what you try my plumbing scores will be low because neither my parents nor myself really cared about this. So how will your awesome teaching abilities really matter? Remember, I am in a class of 30 or so other kids. Are you going to drop everything for me? What if you have a class with 19 other students in my same situation?
If you had a class of students whose parents were motivated and the student was motivated to get an education then that awesome teacher can really help boost the ability of the kids. A poor teacher can not. No matter the awesomeness of the teacher in the plumbing example, the non-motivated family/kids won't do well because they just don't care or possibly have the mental brainpower.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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Such a sad POV.
I think you are a bit delusional on this topic. Schools are like any other business, they are only as effective as the clientele they serve
Giving WalMart shoppers gift cards to Nordstroms will not magically improve their behavior, nor the environment at the new store they frequent, or the WalMart they left behind.
Look at any old neighborhood. As the landlords began accepting govt "vouchers" the neighborhoods died (see Detroit). It did not change their poor decisions, nor improve (or even maintain) the neighborhood, nor the housing unit the renters left behind
Its just life
As Christ said, the poor you will have with you always. Meaning - people have to want to improve. Simply giving them silver or gold as they continue to sit on the corner, does not change their life
Some school, some where, vouchers or not, have to serve the kids who parents are absent or just don't care. There is no permanent solution for that level of apathy
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