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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38546 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Posted by Message GEAUXmedic OT Managers / Directors I'm curious, does her looking for employment elsewhere violate any terms in her contract? Also are there any terms of termination in the contract that would apply?


Other than the fact she was using company time and company laptop to search for employment outside of our company, there is no issue. Except that she lied to me three times about it.

Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:41 pm to
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It's not the mistake that will get her in trouble. It's the cover up. She had a chance to own up. She failed.


Was it on company time or does she have a non-compete clause?

If not, she shouldn't be have to tell you anything.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38546 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Posted by Message Topwater Trout OT Managers / Directors If you were interviewing to replace her would you tell her if she asked?


Yes. Why? Because I would have enough supporting written documentation along with verbal conversations that it would not come as a surprise to her or any of my employees.

Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17185 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:42 pm to
My company is terrified to fire anyone. I tried multiple times and they just moved the person to another department. Puts you in a tough spot.

To give her credit, why would anyone admit to that? I am as trustworthy as anyone and wouldn't admit to that. Some things just aren't your business.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21331 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:42 pm to
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It's not the mistake that will get her in trouble. It's the cover up. She had a chance to own up. She failed. 


Shes looking for a job that doesnt have a nosey douchebag manager with an agenda on a power trip pulling rank.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15507 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:43 pm to
She is under no obligation to tell you the truth if she is seeking another employment. If you had to resort to calling her out 3 times and then confronted her with a letter, she is obviously not comfortable with approaching you about why she wants to leave that place of employment. Leave her alone if you want to keep her for longer or fire her.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51612 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:44 pm to
Two pages and no one has requested her pic yet. This might be a record for the OT.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38546 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Kingwood Tiger OT Managers / Directors Sometimes its best not to let them know what you know. What was your purpose of bringing this up to her?


She called me, for about the third time - she's a new employee of less than 60 days - identifying problem after problem inside her business. As I had told her previously, I am glad that you have identified all the problems we have, what is your proposed solution and what are you going to do to correct them?

I only brought up the seeking employment issue after listening to her for 35 minutes. I reached my boiling point.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Two pages and no one has requested her pic yet. This might be a record for the OT.



I already found her pic, not needed.


But if she used company computers and time to find this other job, yeah let her go.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:46 pm to
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retirement community.


I'm available for hire, just don't tell my boss.

You can't blame the girl for trying not to burn a bridge before she knows what's on the other side.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38546 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:47 pm to
She is a middle aged lady that has told me on several occasions, unsolicited, that she has over $1.5 million dollars in the bank.

I have never acknowledged her financial comments.
Posted by HornsLife
Dallas, TX
Member since Feb 2014
786 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:48 pm to
Had an employee leave her resume and cover letter on the fax machine and still denied it when asked. Her services were no longer needed.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:48 pm to
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she's a new employee of less than 60 days


Do yall not have some type of probationary period for new hires? I'd just let her go, sounds like she will be pain in arse to you....and if she is a new hire and already looking something is up.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Yes. Why?


because the issue is being lied to. If she does her job ignore it. If you want to keep her ask her what she wants to stay. Be honest
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38546 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:50 pm to
No probationary period. She became a manager from day one. Not my idea, just company structure.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15507 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:50 pm to
Just fire her for using company resources inappropriately, it would be easier than telling the OT why she is a sucky employee and bat shite crazy.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14865 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:51 pm to
You are in a very gray area in the corporate world. Unless you can document she was job seeking on your company time or she has a non compete- you really have no grounds to require her to answer you.

AS an employer you do not have the right to individual lives only their time on your clock and that is limited by law as well.

Are you in a large company? You may want to discuss this with HR and legal.

If you are in a small company you need to be aware of local labor laws.

Never let emotion get in the way of management.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9343 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:51 pm to
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does her looking for employment elsewhere violate any terms in her contract? Also are there any terms of termination in the contract that would apply?


Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Except that she lied to me three times about it.


She isn't your daughter. She doesn't owe an explanation to you about keeping a lookout for better employment opportunities.

Since she was doing it on a company laptop and on company time, then I can your reasoning for taking issue with that.

However, the fact that your upset that she lied about putting herself in a potentially better employment position, seems trivial and controlling.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:52 pm to
What policy is she breaking by not being forthcoming about a job search though? I wouldn't have any employees if I disciplined for lying.
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