re: Game of Thrones S4:E3:"Breaker of Chains", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Hate to get away from the main discussion here but I do have a slight gripe about this show. I love it's depth and all but there is so much going on, so many stories moving forward at once, that you barely get to see too much of anything in 1 episode.

I mean here we are coming on week 4 and all we've seen Khaleesi do is move her army some and just now has approached a city. That's it.

Right now, we've got:

Across the Narrow Sea
- Dany trying to put together her army and get across to Westeros...no telling how many more fricking cities she has to go through
- there's always Jorah, Barristan Selmy, and Daario as well

King's Landing
- Joffrey is now dead
- Tyrion's trial
- Oberyn ready to frick shite up to avenge his sister
- Cersei/Jaime relationship
- Varys and whatever he's getting into
- Sansa/Petyr Baelish and whatever is going on there
- Loras/Cersei wedding (now off maybe?)
- Old lady and Margaery Tyrell and what their role is now
- Brienne is hanging around as well
- Podrick and Bronn as well, since Tyrion fired Pod and may not be able to pay Bronn anymore

The North
- Wildlings (Ygritte and Tormund Giantsbane and crew) are sacking villages with the Thenns, headed to Castle Black
- Mance Rayder and what he's up to (we haven't even seen him yet)
- Castle Black:
--- Crows preparing for battle
--- Jon Snow and whatever he's got going om
--- Sam and Gilly (who is now not even in castle Black anymore..she's in Mole's Town, and that will come into play I assume)
--- a new angle of Karl and the mutiny at Craster's Keep (and how the Crows will handle that)
- Rickon and Osha (no idea where they are at this point)

North of the Wall
- Bran, Hodor, Jojen, Meera and that whole thing (and where they're now heading)

Riverlands
- Hound and Arya still making their way to Lysa at the Vale of Arryn
- the Mountain is still somewhere around (and also may play into the Tywin/Oberyn pact)

Dragonstone
- Melissandre is still fire lord of light-ing it up and executing people
- Shireen still teaching Davos how to read
- Davos now thinking about borrowing from the Iron Bank of Braavos to hire sellswords from Essos
- Gendry hasn't been seen since Davos released him

Dreadfort
- Ramsay Snow is still a psycho
- Theon is now Reek and seems to be completely submissive (we shall see)
- Roose Bolton is pissed at Ramsay for turturing Theon because he wanted to trade with the Iron Islands
--- Ramsay/Reek are sent to Moat Cailin to take it
--- Locke is sent to find and kill Bran, Rickon, and Jon Snow


And that doesn't even cover other main characters that I am forgetting.

So all of that is currently going on right now. That's a fricking LOT of stories to get through with hour-long episodes once a week (and only ten a season). The good news is that some of them should be converging together (similar to the Red Wedding), so there will be fewer to have to get through. But yeah, it's a little aggravating that SO MUCH is going on sometimes. But at least almost all of it is good/interesting though.

If they would make the damn episodes about 1:15 each week it wold help tremendously. Some end up only being about 45 min.

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Some end up only being about 45 min.

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2 minute previously on GOT, 2 minutes of credits and a 2.5 minute intro will do that. I'm probably in the minority but I really hate their intro.

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Yeah with the amount of gravitas in that dong shot, it probably should have gotten its own thread

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it took me a while to get what you were doing.

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they could save a lot of time if they just started the episode without it

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I mean, over the course of the 10 episode season they are throwing away about half an episode worth of time all for their intro.

Are we for sure the Lannisters are in a bunch of debt to the Iron Bank?

I seem to remember in season 1 they said the throne was in debt to a lot of people including the lannisters. I also believe Tyrion saying the Iron Bank is not as forgiving as his father. I'm guessing they don't want to pay off the debt becasue it would zero their personal family account....so is anyone currently worrying about paying back the actual cash?

I swear GoT is the fast 50 or whatever mins ever. Feels like 30 mins every time.

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