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re: Anti-Religion group attacks Clemson football program

Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:46 pm to
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:46 pm to
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It is really hard for this to be voluntary without making someone who chooses not to participate feel marginalized.

If you participate you get more time with the coach and the other players who share your faith. If you do not participate you get less face time and may not get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to playing time or time spent being coached/mentored.


As some have said, Dabo is here to win games not evangilize our youth, and he knows that. Tommy Bowden was 10x more vigilant about religion than Dabo was. Clemson had no problem getting rid of him when he couldn't produce on the field.

Whether you participate or not will not be held against you.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:48 pm to
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This has nothing to do with "forcing guys to play". A state employee has no right to push religion on others at a state institution.


Where do you draw the line? Can there be no more team prayers before a game? Can there be no more FCA groups?

I am as unreligious as they come, and I've dripped on Dabo as much as any Clemson fan around. However, this is just people arguing about nothing.

Dabo has had a rough life and feels his relationship with God is what got him through that. If he wants to tell people that, so fvcking be it. Also, like people mentioned, he doesn't hide it. If you go to Clemson you know you're going to play for a man who's very religious.

It's not some shock. Anyone who goes there understands what they signed up for and is comfortable with it.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15237 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 5:54 pm to
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If you actually did what the bible tells you to do, you would be an evil person. You would be in jail for the rest of your life. Go read it......


Something tells me either youre just spouting off what some atheist told you and you take it as fact, or your reading comprehension skills suck.

But I'll humor you, what makes the bible so evil exactly? What henious crimes does the bible say to commit that would leave me in prison?
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7592 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Does South Carolina have laws that prohibit what he's doing?



IDK brah
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:15 pm to
Interesting to see all of the different points of view on this subject. I still say we need more coaches like Swinney, Richt, and Malzahn.
Posted by dwgsfrlife7673
Warner Robins
Member since Jan 2014
1036 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:39 pm to
At the end of the day nothing anyone has posted here will affect Clemson or Dabo.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:48 pm to
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At the end of the day nothing anyone has posted here will affect Clemson or Dabo.


And neither should anything some special interest group says.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 11:58 pm to
I find it amusing just as annoying and ignorant bible thumpers are/can be, the new breed of atheist that are so quick to pounce on anything with religion that they use the same broad strokes and ignorant statements from their group.

Both extreme sides are rretarded.the fact that anyone thinks they know for sure is amazing and more adament you are is just you trying to convince yourself.

You can always tell the ones who do it because they thinm its cool because spaghetti monster gets brought up and somehow thought of as new and funny. Even though I tend to lean athiest way, theres nothing worse than an atheist circle jerk of reused jokes and those craaaaazy jesus saves pictures. Imho we tend to poke religion and when one says anything its a whoaaaaaaaaa look at them defend their thoughts!attack


It's like athiest are lsu fans and Christians are ul fans....make nonstop threads poking them with same tired jokes and when one ul responds its nothing but lsu fans ckaiming obsession
Posted by dwgsfrlife7673
Warner Robins
Member since Jan 2014
1036 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:03 am to
I find many to have a pretty hypocritical or ridiculous standpoint on religion. Atheist seem to believe in not believing anything (therefore not being technically atheist) and many Christians forget what the bible truly teaches. I hope it works out for Dabo and I hope non believers on the team do not feel persecuted.
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:04 am to
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It's like athiest are lsu fans and Christians are ul fans....make nonstop threads poking them with same tired jokes and when one ul responds its nothing but lsu fans ckaiming obsession


Hey now, flip the teams and you've got a point
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:07 am to
10 pages.

Give me a break.

What a slow off-season.
Posted by dwgsfrlife7673
Warner Robins
Member since Jan 2014
1036 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:16 am to
Debate is always good
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164044 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:19 am to
Where in the constitution does it say Clemson can't do this?

All I see is a reference to Congress in the amendment.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:26 am
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 1:13 am to
Why can't a state official sponsor his religion? Nothing wrong with that.

Didn't Hal Mumme at Kentucky have to pay $200,000 for this to a minority religion?
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33377 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 8:30 am to
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If you actually did what the bible tells you to do, you would be an evil person. You would be in jail for the rest of your life. Go read it......
why should he have to go find it. youre the one telling him about it. you show it to him.
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