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re: Is the biggest problem with America that we think we are worth more than we are?

Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:29 pm to
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I understand you hold a worldview that really really wants to believe these two "axioms."



My examples are not axioms, they are examples disproving the axiom that hard work and responsibility will make you financially successful, while sloth and irresponsibility will keep you from being successful.

But yes, there are enough examples of both - ESPECIALLY very hard-working, responsible people that just never seem to get ahead - to disprove the myth, or 'axiom'.

The irony is that it's YOUR worldview that really, really wants to believe these two "axioms." I'm sorry to tell you, the world just isn't fair. Get over it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101649 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:37 pm to
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I'm sorry to tell you, the world just isn't fair.


The fact that you think my point has anything to do with this, pretty much says everything.
Posted by DR Hops
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:49 pm to
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WildTchoupitoulas


I'll give you a real life example of myself.

I was raised in a middle class family. My parents taught me the value of hard work. My dad was in the air force out of high school, and went to work at a plant for 30+ years until he retired. My mom used to work at same plant, but stayed home with me and my brother to raise us. We were not rich, but we were rich in life. Our parents provided for us. We never went hungry, but we never ate extravagantly either. My parents parents were poor farmers. They too, worked hard for what they got, and to give their children better opportunities than they had. They succeeded.

My brother and I were taught to never beg for things, never take from others, to work for everything you want, and you will get it. They also taught us that money was not to be idolized, and a fool and his money are soon parted.
I worked hard in school as a kid, and especially in high school. I knew if i did not apply myself and make good grades, that i would end up in working at a McDonald's making minimum wage. That was enough of a deterrent for me to do good in school. I am the first in my immediate family to go to, and graduate college. I chose a major that i knew i would always have a job, and i could become successful at. I'm more than half my dad's age, and already my salary is more than his was when he retired. I earned everything I have. From my car to my house, to the things i buy to eat and live, to the things i buy for enjoyment. But success is not measured in money or material things. The family and friends i have is my marker of success. Being able to raise my child to have more than I have is success.

So, with that being said, why should I have to pay more in taxes, etc... to subsidize another person who could achieve just as much as i have, or more? Every opportunity is out there for the taking. Equality of opportunity is guaranteed, equality of outcomes is not. Why must i subsidize others if they will not provide for themselves, given the same opportunities?
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 2:52 pm
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