re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.

The Patriot Act probably never would have passed had Congress known to what extent it would really be used. It's a perfect example of what happens when our civil liberties are forfeited in the name of national security.

Any new gun laws would be abused as well. I'm convinced. When George W. Bush said, "fool us once... well... we just won't be fooled", I hope he was right.