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Second amendment - the attacks will never stop apparently
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:36 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:36 am
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Where does this even come from? Arguing that the citizens need to be disarmed right after the Nevada rancher standoff?
It's like whackamole. These anti second amendment folks just keep popping back up no matter how many times reality knocks them into the dirt. I guess you have to admire the pluck of these guys, even if you feel they are misguided.
Where does this even come from? Arguing that the citizens need to be disarmed right after the Nevada rancher standoff?
It's like whackamole. These anti second amendment folks just keep popping back up no matter how many times reality knocks them into the dirt. I guess you have to admire the pluck of these guys, even if you feel they are misguided.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:41 am to JT
It will only stop when they get ALL the guns, then they will switch to knifes...
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:47 am to JT
Easy fix. I am a militia of one. If the military can be an army of one. Why not me?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:54 am to JT
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These anti second amendment folks just keep popping back up no matter how many times reality knocks them into the dirt.
Maybe they are just anti-gun and want to repeal the 2nd Amend. Don't they have the 1st Amend right to voice their opinions on the matter?
I see nothing wrong with people who disagree with our right to keep and bear arms voicing their opinion. I may disagree with them, but it's their right to pursue the change they desire.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:57 am to JT
Money to be made off of gun control advocacy. Think Shannon R. Watts gives two shits about saving lives or gun safety while pocketing a check from MAIG? Think Josh Sugarmann is going to parrot anything he can to get cash from the Joyce Foundation?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Maybe they are just anti-gun and want to repeal the 2nd Amend. Don't they have the 1st Amend right to voice their opinions on the matter?
I see nothing wrong with people who disagree with our right to keep and bear arms voicing their opinion. I may disagree with them, but it's their right to pursue the change they desire.
Agreed. I believe I alluded to the grudging respect I have for their tenacity.
Just seems a little tone-deaf to come out with this right now considering recent events. Makes me wonder who greenlighted this to be put out today and what the motivation is. Is there a standing order from higher up just to release articles like this on a certain schedule?
It is refreshing though to read the comments and see there are a surprising number of "gun nuts" who make solid and respectful contributions in support of citizens rights.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:18 am to JT
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It is refreshing though to read the comments and see there are a surprising number of "gun nuts" who make solid and respectful contributions in support of citizens rights.
I believe that the Fourth Amendment helps to protect the Second Amendment, which in turn helps to protect the First Amendment.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:34 am to JT
Looking back several pages, it seems this article was already discussed on 4/12. Did not realize before posting.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:12 am to JT
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From its inclusion in the Constitution in 1791 until 2008, it was not understood to give Americans a personal right to have a gun. And then it changed, in a profound way.
Prior to 2008, there was a public conversation – often, in academic writings funded by the National Rifle Association – about whether the Amendment should go beyond protecting the arming of state militias, to allow Americans to arm themselves for personal use.
The Supreme Court finally accepted that expanded view,
All of this is utter horseshite.
Declaring the Second Amendment to be an individual right was in no way a new interpretation or expansion. Heller was the first time the Court every looked at the issue. Different groups argued for years over the meaning but there was no serious state impingement on the ability to own guns until D.C. and Illinois started banning the ownership of handguns in the late 2000s. That was the first time the U.S. Supreme Court ever looked at the issue.
Now, if these guys want to argue that the right only belongs with members of the militia (known as the the Collective Right Argument) then they need to take a look at who was considered to be "militia" during the drafting of the Constitution. "Militia" was every able-bodied male. So according to their own argument, able-bodied men have the right to possess firearms to the exclusion of women. I'm sure that will go over well with the Feminist.
Or we could simply look at how the guy who wrote the Second Amendment explained it:
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[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. - James Madison
Hell, it's on the very short list of things on which Hamilton and Madison agreed.
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The constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. - Alexander Hamilton
Posted on 4/15/14 at 10:13 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Maybe they are just anti-gun and want to repeal the 2nd Amend. Don't they have the 1st Amend right to voice their opinions on the matter?
You're entitle to your own opinion not your own facts.
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